I have recently come across this forum, but have only done limited research. Please excuse my new-ness and lack of knowledge. I will continue to learn about this forum, but I currently need help with a girl I met.

I went to a bar to watch a college football game a couple weeks ago. I met "girl A" who was meeting her friend who had been there a while and was pretty drunk. We talked all night, had drinks, and seemed to be hitting it off. I even stayed with her at the bar while my friends went to a different bar.

Towards the end of the night she gave me her phone number and I walked her to her car. I texted her shortly after "wanna come over?" She replied "I'm not that kinda girl."

2 weeks go by, I text her today. I ask her if she wants to meet for drinks sometime this week. She says sure, and we are planning on meeting.

How should I play this? Should I meet with just her? or invite her out with my friends? I just want to see if this girl is as hot as I remember her, have some drinks, talk, then take her back to my place. I guess what I'm saying is that I have gotten past the openers, intro, text exchange, but I'm not sure how to treat this upcoming date. I don't want to mess up what I've started.

Any advice?

I think you are guilty of the same thing that I fuck up on all the time. I often times fail to either recognize when I have already achieved attraction or upon recognizing it I fail escalate the attraction properly and fully. This is where I stumble when I stumble. For the record, all girls are that kind of girl if they like you enough (unless maybe, and I emphasize MAYBE, they are virgins or very religious).

If what you want out of this whole thing is sex then you need to fix the mistake you made earlier. You put the sex vibe out there out of context and she had no way to rationalize in her head why sleeping with you would be fun and not a slutty thing to do. Now you are going to have to go in and try to make her very comfortable with you and just hope to god that her level of natural attraction to you is very high. Not to be mean but it;s gonna start looking like one of those cell phone commercials "would you fuck me now?, How about now? Would you fuck me now?

Have you ever told a lie and then found yourself doing or saying things that were only really being thrown out there to support the lie? That is where she is going to be now. Everything she does is going to be tainted by her trying to prove to you that she is not a slut. I hope someone in this place can help you find a way out of that one but I am not a master PUA yet. If someone does figure this one out for you then please let me know.

I think you are right. It would have been "slutty" of her to come over just for sex. Do you think she just needs to get past the first night before her inner slut comes out? Should I see her in a date-like setting?

I hope she doesn't go out of her way to avoid being seen as a "slut." I already know all girls are sluts.

You got me all wrong, bro. It wasn't because of the time was too short but because of the TIMING. While emotions were high with her she could have backwards-rationalized the whole event. Instead you failed to escalate and then you lost your target. By then texting her you did a couple really bad things. You Demonstrated Lower Value by appearing needy and expressing too much interest. You took away her much needed Plausible Deniability. You are now going to have to backtrack those key mistakes in a subtle way. I would recommend inviting her into your group (preferably one that includes women as this will be a DHV). If you can work your set in front of her then you may be able to deliver enough DHVs to make up for your DLV (im not sure that will work cause I haven't tried it). Then you have to find someway to give her back her plausible deniability so that she can justify that it was your mad voodoo charm that made the caused the whole situation not her being a slut. Read the first couple chapters of MM before you do a damned thing if you actually want to have a chance at this.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Thank you. What is MM?

Mystery Method. If you dont already have the book you can download it for like 10$ best 10$ you will EVER spend.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

you basically said "lets skip the foreplay and just get to the sex" . That may work on women who want it just as bad as you do and if you are as attractive as Brad Pitt but this is not what the game teaches. You escalate one step at a time to get to that point. You want her to be all over you, then asking her to come over becomes more than obvious when you play it right. To do that, you were on the right track after you got her number. However I don't think there was anything you could have done short of rape to get her that night.

You do have a second chance, you have to recharge that attraction and interest you built with her the first time (girls are emotional) since she might not have remembered too much of how she felt depending on how much she had to drink.

This time though, try to escalate the kino (read mystery method). Do a trust test with her hands. Hand contact is usually the safest and most harmless way of kino. Then hopefully she reciprocates back then you know to start escalating. I think once you officially make out then your in a safe spot of dropping the question. However don't just ask her! invite her!

Say "hey, i'm going to head back home and watch a movie or something, your welcome to join. "

This implies that your going to do that with or without her and she's missing out if she says no. Also a movie is a harmless thing. Then you can just take it from there.

Remember No means no, don't rape like criminal afc's do.

I cant seem to post any threads!! they keep on giving me some bullshit error about how I have less than 5legitimate posts and have been wid them for 0days and all crap!

Sorry but how did a newbie(no offence) seem to post a forum while I have to sit here in my desk and just see other people satisfied wid their posts and getting great responses.. D:
I really am frustrated and all and I need help, Dire need of help!

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Game is the EXPRESSION OF YOUR INNER STATE, conveyed by the rhythms you use to direct the energy of the interaction.

Hey man there is no shortcut here you need to get a proper text to learn the game, unless you insist that you are natural and find your own way or method, buy and read Mystery Method and Double Your Dating, those are dating bibles.

I just want to point out a few things you could have improved on your sarge. Firstly you come off as a needy guy when you stay with her when your pals go to other bars, it means you value a stranger more than your friends and yourself, which speaks of low value.

Secondly you come off as someone who has no life if you just stay with her for hours and hours, what you could have done is taking her to the bar your friends are going to, it solves all the above mentioned problem.

Thirdly it is good that you walk her to her car, gentlemanly is always encouraged but if you want sex so badly, why dont you drive her instead with the excuse of drink driving (since she is drunk already).

Fourthly do not text her to come over right after you left her, it means that you did not think of asking her to come right then and there, which will means that you are ill prepared for sex, and it is low value as well.

You are really lucky she reply your text later and still want to hang out, that means your sarge is not blown off by buyer's remorse yet. Improve on those things

Cheers