Hello,

I am a 17 year old who is Very interested in loosing his virginity as soon as possible, It feels like a hinderance on my life and because of secondary school's social conditioning i've cooped myself up in my house a long time, due to this i:
A) Have a terrible sleeping pattern
B) Do not know where to try out some daygame
C) Have not even managed to kiss a girl, Simply because i've not been able to seduce and most of the times i thought about doing so i revised it in my mind and thought it wasnt a good idea

I am not an ugly chap and girls do show interest yet due to my indoors nature i mostly talk to them online (facebook ect.) , When i arrange a meeting due to the fact that i've either only met them once/twice or never at all they seem to flake out on me. I try not to be picky in order to lose it and although my text game is quite good well, its not good enough. They are aroused but not letting me seal the deal.

Please give some advice!
Post links to threads that understand my problem and please do not ask me mearly to research because i'm much more parital to having somone explain a few places and converse with people. Thank you!

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Hey dude, try the mall, its a great place to day game. But you have to be kinda careful because people are shopping and can't talk for more than like 5 minutes.

Try going into Victoria's Secret and pretend to be buying your sister a birthday present. That should be a good opener, ask for their opinion on something. I'm 17 too and I have the same issues, no where to go for our age. But teenage girls always hang out at the mall at Saturday.

Also you could try the movie theaters. This is where guys and girls go together so you've got to be careful about the AMOG. Pretend to be waiting for a group of friends, preferably hot blond chicks, and ask if anyone has seen them. This way the girls see you are a player and you have a good opener.

Thanks man they all sound like great places, Im not much of one for a DHV tactic, AMOGs i dont think i'll be worried about (Approach Priming) but they sound like great places to hit thanks a bunch for the info

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Hey man .. Even im seventeen !
Sarge . In malls , Bookstores , Street N stuff ..
I dnt get to sarge much . Usually Busy .
Would recommend u to work on your INNER GAME .. MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOSING UR VIRGINITY !
Since v Teen Pua's Cant get easy lays .
Exception Social Circle .
Just me a fun guy . Chicks will come running After U !

Dude, your 17! Look at it as a blessing man.

People in their 30's 40's are still in your position wishing they knew what they know now when they were 17. People like Adam Lyons and Gambler didn't get going until mid 20's.

But yes, unless you actually get out and do things, nothing will happen.

Your doing the right things man, if you want a place to meet girls in daytime then try a shopping centre, got to be one near you in London!

Get ya best clothes on and go....shopping

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"I guess a little small talks in order here now."

"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

Ah thanks a bunch,

yeah i noticed the top Pua's had one thing in common, Deperation and where as i dont wanna be deperate i want to get to the same level of game as them both.

True inner game is key though, how do youincrease inner game and increase value amongst peers?

Thanks for the current replies, Answer as you feel lads!

Michael

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There is no true happiness in another, Seek out hapiness and enlightenment yourself. And enjoy whatever you can on the way up there.

For developing your inner game I would say the first and most important is appearance! I know a lot of people love to disagree with this and say NO it's confidence, overcoming approach anxiety and so on and so on.

When I say appearance I mean clothes, hairstyle, fragrance, posture, clean nails, whte straight teeth, all about being groomed. I'm not saying all of these have to be in place to game and nor do they to attract women, however they should all be a goal.

A good appearance will not only attract women but it will constantly boost your self esteem, your confidence and easily give you higher value. Great social awarness, intelligence etc etc

My second and last tip would be, whilst your working towards your better image, put your self in lots of new situations, new clubs, go for random days out, learn new stuff that you have always wanted to learn. Just to build that inner game more, naturally!

In terms of Pick-up, just approach many different people whislt doing these things. I know it sound easier than it is, but not many people just do these things to improve themselves and they do take time.

Anyway, goodluck

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"I guess a little small talks in order here now."

"Do I look like a gentleman to you in this shirt and these pants?"

"I know you from some place."

Hi.. im also 17 you have all touched on very good subjects and i agree your inner game is key to a greater confidence however i must point out that gamming a 17 yr old girl is very diffrent to a 24 yr old

Im still quite a newbie to PU but i have noticed that a 17 yr olds social life consists of a large social circle in witch this circle has the same "style" not necessarily the way they dress etc but more how they talk and how they relate, and they all have the same general aspect in witch they view social situations.

These people all go to the same parties share hang out locations etc and there are usualy the more attractive "popular kids" and generally there are boatloads of girls in these groups and it is rare for them to accept random guys and are more likely to be at ease with some one who shares the same "style" as them.

Im not going to go into great detail but i sugest studying the group at witch you wish to game but pay more attention to the guys and see how they act in situations with girls and become more like them not necessarily for the entire time but purely to meet the girls you are intrested in and Nclose (Number close) from there on you can ask them on dates etc

Studying the group may be hard try and get in with the guys if possible
and who knows you might make friends along the way

Goodluck happy gamming!

Thanks to everyone who posted here! i'll keep looking back and add my own feedback as i go out

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There is no true happiness in another, Seek out hapiness and enlightenment yourself. And enjoy whatever you can on the way up there.

Hey bro,

I'm 19 and I understand how you feel. But the best piece of advice I ever got given was to 'chill'. Being young can be quite hard because you want to be older, have more confidence, go out and get loads of HB's. I know what it's like because I went through it/still am and so does everybody else. Don't worry at least your not 50 and thinking you've wasted your life just working or whatever... Your 17, the next 13 years will be your best.

Patience

Learn your game

and as your start to get older things will fall in to place. If you work hard and are focused, then I'm sure you will do very well.

Good luck.

TC