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Do you only open up hb8+ in the clubs or do you open up everyone?

I agree with jurupa, you need to open her up according to what she is doing and how her mind set is at that time. Its about calibrating yourself at that time. somethings may work all the time but some things wont in certain situation. What i would do is open up sets around her, guys or girls. Pay attedntion to your set and also pay attention to her and take notes. Is she getting approcached by other guys? How is she rejecting them? does she notice/look over in your direction when you open up a set near her? Its like doing some recon before you go in for the kill.

Your looks plays a small part in all this, so get that out of your head. Be confident with yourself. Sometimes it may feel like you need validation of your looks from a HB but thats is what you need to get rid of. Smile alot, always smile! just that alone will improve your pick-up alot! The mind set i go out in is that "hey even if i dont pick up a HB i'm still going to have fun"

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Totally missing the point.

Prove to yourself you can do it, by making adjustments to your game till it works on the hot chicks. that is what you need to do.


Don't dive into lala land they call 'inner game'

It's mostly bullshit, just like your insecurities. And what happens when you add bullshit to bullshit? A bigger heap of bullshit takes form.

Yea but how do I know whats going wrong? I mean, it could be thousands of factors, maybe what I say, maybe how I'm saying it, maybe my body language, maybe my tonality, maybe my eye contact, maybe etcccc.

I can do my best, but maybe I'm doing something unconscious that I'm not aware of, how can I watch myself approaching? lol, I can't bring a camcorder to the club and record myself
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My friend, I think you're relying on your looks too much proved by posting your pictures. Its good to have good looks but thats not a choice unfortunately, you're either born with it, or you spend money on it. I'm not criticising and I'm glad for you, but it does effect mentality...I will give you an example, I'm not very good looking so I KNEW that I should never rely on my looks so I have to work harder in my game and routines, you will be surprised that once you game you will have hot girls talking laughing and talking to you (most of my female friends are 7.5+) and I know it because the way they treat me has nothing to do with looks. So when I'm talking to girls, I forget about my big nose and baby face, and believe me it will make you feel like you're the hottest guy around once you get a few positive results....

Advice to all, wether you look good or not, forget about how you look and make an approach FOCUSING PURELY on your routines, your mentality should be "I'm feeling great at the moment and look good", 2 mins into the conversation it doesn't matter what you look like, ever wondered why you saw an ugly guy with a really hot girl? don't hate, the ugly guy deserves it, he gamed and got it.

I walk with my female friends and they spot a guy and they say he's hot watching him from distance, the minute he does something stupid they lose interest and start cussing him, its funny!

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That's what I'm doing, but like I said to Vaj, maybe it's something unconscious that I'm not aware of? I don't know
It's no hocus pocus.

How do you act around hb 4,5,6's?
Compare that how you act around hb 8,9's


Also I'm doubting you're really looking for help. It looks like you're just here to bitch and moan about your 'pathetic situation'. Boohoo.

If you took jurupa's advice to heart, this thread would be over.
That's the problem dude, I THINK I act the SAME way on a 4,5,6 and 7,8,9,10...
In my mind I'm the same, but MAYBE, and just MAYBE, I'm doing something unconscious? maybe the bodylanguage? or eye contact or something I don't know... how can i know these things if I'm not looking at myself when I approach.. also I don't have wings to tell me what I'm doing wrong
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Yea but how do I know whats going wrong? I mean, it could be thousands of factors, maybe what I say, maybe how I'm saying it, maybe my body language, maybe my tonality, maybe my eye contact, maybe etcccc.

I can do my best, but maybe I'm doing something unconscious that I'm not aware of, how can I watch myself approaching? lol, I can't bring a camcorder to the club and record myself
That's what I'm doing, but like I said to Vaj, maybe it's something unconscious that I'm not aware of? I don't know
It's no hocus pocus.

How do you act around hb 4,5,6's?
Compare that how you act around hb 8,9's


Also I'm doubting you're really looking for help. It looks like you're just here to bitch and moan about your 'pathetic situation'. Boohoo.

If you took jurupa's advice to heart, this thread would be over.
That's the problem dude, I THINK I act the SAME way on a 4,5,6 and 7,8,9,10...
In my mind I'm the same, but MAYBE, and just MAYBE, I'm doing something unconscious? maybe the bodylanguage? or eye contact or something I don't know... how can i know these things if I'm not looking at myself when I approach.. also I don't have wings to tell me what I'm doing wrong
Go out in field, write a FR which include a few approaches of hot girls, and a few 'lesser' ones.

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there is nothing wrong with your looks as far as the pictures tell..and the advice given to you is sound. but if it makes you FEEL better you should consider growinga 5-6 day facial beard to cover the acne more..
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Looks definitley do not matter. Check out this red haired dude called Phil the Cobra Commander on Keys to the VIP. He is goofy and creepy looking, but yet the women are so interested in him. Here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/195338/keys-t ... -john-wilk

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How the hell do you people think constantly telling this guy he's not ugly is going to help?



Come up with something practical, OR GTFO.
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Looks definitley do not matter. Check out this red haired dude called Phil the Cobra Commander on Keys to the VIP. He is goofy and creepy looking, but yet the women are so interested in him. Here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/195338/keys-t ... -john-wilk
Looks do matter, saying otherwise is saying first impressions do not matter. There is more to looks that your actual physical looks. How you present your self and act very much play a part in how you look.
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That's the problem dude, I THINK I act the SAME way on a 4,5,6 and 7,8,9,10...
In my mind I'm the same, but MAYBE, and just MAYBE, I'm doing something unconscious? maybe the bodylanguage? or eye contact or something I don't know... how can i know these things if I'm not looking at myself when I approach.. also I don't have wings to tell me what I'm doing wrong
You are focusing to much on you and not on what you are doing game wise. Like I said, you are gaming the girls according to how hot they are and not to who they are.
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I agree with jurupa, you need to open her up according to what she is doing and how her mind set is at that time. Its about calibrating yourself at that time.
It is actually more adjusting to her personality/body language than anything else.
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Thank you guys, those words really helps me, I think my main problem is my subconscious insecurity, you know maybe some kind of body language I'm not aware of... so I'll work more on my inner game

thank you all!
Totally missing the point.

Prove to yourself you can do it, by making adjustments to your game till it works on the hot chicks. that is what you need to do.


Don't dive into lala land they call 'inner game'

It's mostly bullshit, just like your insecurities. And what happends when you add bullshit to bullshit? A bigger heap of bullshit takes form.
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Beliefs are formed by thinking something (e.g. Hot girls don't like me, because of my acne scars), and then checking past experiences to see if it's true... if you think that's the reason then you'll belief it.

Adjust your game, if you can get 1 hot chick it'll snowball, you can hold onto that memory and every time your mind goes: "Hot girls don't like me, because of my acne scars" you can counter it by saying: That's not true, I had that 1 hot chick.

You can also change beliefs by seeing other people with acne scars with hot chicks and realizing that you can get hot chicks even with acne scars.


Also the things that have been said already, but which I agree with:
- Drop the whole neg thing, 99% of people in the community don't grasp the concept and are only crippling their game by misusing them... compliment+smile works way better.
- See how you interact with girls you've successfully gamed and notice what you are doing different with hot girls.

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Thank you guys, those words really helps me, I think my main problem is my subconscious insecurity, you know maybe some kind of body language I'm not aware of... so I'll work more on my inner game

thank you all!
Totally missing the point.

Prove to yourself you can do it, by making adjustments to your game till it works on the hot chicks. that is what you need to do.


Don't dive into lala land they call 'inner game'

It's mostly bullshit, just like your insecurities. And what happends when you add bullshit to bullshit? A bigger heap of bullshit takes form.
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Beliefs are formed by thinking something (e.g. Hot girls don't like me, because of my acne scars), and then checking past experiences to see if it's true... if you think that's the reason then you'll belief it.

Adjust your game, if you can get 1 hot chick it'll snowball, you can hold onto that memory and every time your mind goes: "Hot girls don't like me, because of my acne scars" you can counter it by saying: That's not true, I had that 1 hot chick.

You can also change beliefs by seeing other people with acne scars with hot chicks and realizing that you can get hot chicks even with acne scars.


Also the things that have been said already, but which I agree with:
- Drop the whole neg thing, 99% of people in the community don't grasp the concept and are only crippling their game by misusing them... compliment+smile works way better.
- See how you interact with girls you've successfully gamed and notice what you are doing different with hot girls.

Thanks man, but direct probably wouldn't work on HBs 8,9,10

watch this pictures from some girls I have on facebook... this is what I'm aiming
Any tips on how to open this type of girls in club will be appreciated!!!



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Why do i feel like someone just wanna show off some pictures ? :lol:
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Why do i feel like someone just wanna show off some pictures ? :lol:
I wanna show the girls I'm aiming to... because those girls are not easy to open you know..., you can't simply go and say some compliment..
so I need an advise here, some guys wanted to know the type of women I'm aiming to, well here they are! :D
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The only girl i would go for is the brunette in white see-through shirt, I consider her a 9 but then that's personal preference.

From the look of it, you would need to disarm the dress and flower dresses first, they look like the one you will be more likely to have problem with. You can tell by body language that the tan girl in white shirt is the leader of the pack.
The girl in flower dress is the bitch of the grp.
The one in black dress is follower.
The easiest target is the blonde.
Which one were you wanted to go forr?
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The only girl i would go for is the brunette in white see-through shirt, I consider her a 9 but then that's personal preference.

From the look of it, you would need to disarm the dress and flower dresses first, they look like the one you will be more likely to have problem with. You can tell by body language that the tan girl in white shirt is the leader of the pack.
The girl in flower dress is the bitch of the grp.
The one in black dress is follower.
The easiest target is the blonde.
Which one were you wanted to go forr?
Thanks! thats exactly what I thought

My target A is the blond and my target B is the bitch in black dress

For Target A I should dissarm the other two bitches, but what if I want target B? (one of the bitches)

I usually like bitches (dunno why) but I always want the ones that are bitches and dressed like sluts
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