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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:41 am 
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Well, Im a little frustrated right now, I'm an average guy with some acne scars (this is my main problem), not ugly, not brad pitt, I've a great body (I go to gym everyday), I'm 1.70cm tall (about 5'6') and I'm 24

The problem is, I can open and make out with girls that I do NOT like, for example HB's 4,5,6
they open easy and I can fuck them too, but I dont want...

When I want to open HB's 7,8,9 they ignore me, even if I open with a neg and good body language

In my country girls are very accustomed to being approached, much more than in USA, so they have a bitch shield like at 1000%

I've never been with a girl that I LIKE (hb 8+) and I'm a little frustrated here...

I start thinking in ways like "maybe are my acne scars" "maybe I'm not tall enough". I have no acne, only some scars here and there nothing too extreme, and I tried everything, laser, peelings etc, they are better but ther are still there...

So my point is, I'm a little depressed right now, what can I do? what you recommend me to do?

Here are some pics of me (you can't see the scars here, face to face you can)

so any tips? (fashion and hairstyle too)

thank you!!! (and sorry for my bad english)

In the last one you can see some scars (not like in face to face, but a little)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:42 am 
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When I want to open HB's 7,8,9 they ignore me, even if I open with a neg and good body language
I bet you the bold part is your problem. I bet you dollar for dollar you are gaming the girl according to her looks and not adjusting your game to the girl her self. Are you even bother to read the girl before you approach to get a general idea of her personality?
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In my country girls are very accustomed to being approached, much more than in USA, so they have a bitch shield like at 1000%
Just because they get approached more does not necessary mean they will have the bitch shield up 100% of the time. Have you tired day game? Girls are less likely to have their bitch shields up during the day compare to night game.
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I start thinking in ways like "maybe are my acne scars" "maybe I'm not tall enough". I have no acne, only some scars here and there nothing too extreme, and I tried everything, laser, peelings etc, they are better but ther are still there...
Your hight does hurt you, but "walking tall" and being secure in your height will help you over come it. The acne thing is really a non issue when it comes to girls. Its not exactly like you have huge scars on your face.


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ok the reason why i think you're failing is that you havent fully dealt with your inner issues...(acne scars, height etc)... maybe try some kind of hypno therapy... not as in go to see a therapist lol... but there is a lot of stuff on the internet to help you deal with inner issues such as physical appearence etc...

you may think you've dealt with your inner issues but women pick up on these insecurities unless you really have fixed it... :)
they are finely tuned sexual deviates lol ;)

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It's all in your head. Any male has the potential to seduce any female. Keep working on your game, everything will fall into place with time.

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Google picture of all the PUAs and you will find that look/race/height doesn't matter that much, let a lone acne. Women are emotion creatures, it's all about how you make them FEEL.
This is self-esteem issue, there is a lot of way to improve it.
My problem was being asian and can't speak perfect English, but I got over it eventually after putting my ass out there and figuring out what works for me and whats not. I realized that non-verbal seduction is better for me and defeated my original fear that white women don't want asian guy. In fact, they've always been secretly craving for some asian gangbang. It works out well for HB 9,10 too consider they have too much guys in their own race hitting them everyday, and other asians are just too intimidated by them to even open conversations.


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Your attractiveness is not the issue.

In fact, I would start opening with COMPLIMENTS and a SMILE and see how that works out for you.

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Thank you guys, those words really helps me, I think my main problem is my subconscious insecurity, you know maybe some kind of body language I'm not aware of... so I'll work more on my inner game

thank you all!


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Thank you guys, those words really helps me, I think my main problem is my subconscious insecurity, you know maybe some kind of body language I'm not aware of... so I'll work more on my inner game

thank you all!
Totally missing the point.

Prove to yourself you can do it, by making adjustments to your game till it works on the hot chicks. that is what you need to do.


Don't dive into lala land they call 'inner game'

It's mostly bullshit, just like your insecurities. And what happends when you add bullshit to bullshit? A bigger heap of bullshit takes form.


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My friend, I think you're relying on your looks too much proved by posting your pictures. Its good to have good looks but thats not a choice unfortunately, you're either born with it, or you spend money on it. I'm not criticising and I'm glad for you, but it does effect mentality...I will give you an example, I'm not very good looking so I KNEW that I should never rely on my looks so I have to work harder in my game and routines, you will be surprised that once you game you will have hot girls talking laughing and talking to you (most of my female friends are 7.5+) and I know it because the way they treat me has nothing to do with looks. So when I'm talking to girls, I forget about my big nose and baby face, and believe me it will make you feel like you're the hottest guy around once you get a few positive results....

Advice to all, wether you look good or not, forget about how you look and make an approach FOCUSING PURELY on your routines, your mentality should be "I'm feeling great at the moment and look good", 2 mins into the conversation it doesn't matter what you look like, ever wondered why you saw an ugly guy with a really hot girl? don't hate, the ugly guy deserves it, he gamed and got it.

I walk with my female friends and they spot a guy and they say he's hot watching him from distance, the minute he does something stupid they lose interest and start cussing him, its funny!

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Thank you guys, those words really helps me, I think my main problem is my subconscious insecurity, you know maybe some kind of body language I'm not aware of... so I'll work more on my inner game

thank you all!
Totally missing the point.

Prove to yourself you can do it, by making adjustments to your game till it works on the hot chicks. that is what you need to do.


Don't dive into lala land they call 'inner game'

It's mostly bullshit, just like your insecurities. And what happens when you add bullshit to bullshit? A bigger heap of bullshit takes form.

Yea but how do I know whats going wrong? I mean, it could be thousands of factors, maybe what I say, maybe how I'm saying it, maybe my body language, maybe my tonality, maybe my eye contact, maybe etcccc.

I can do my best, but maybe I'm doing something unconscious that I'm not aware of, how can I watch myself approaching? lol, I can't bring a camcorder to the club and record myself
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My friend, I think you're relying on your looks too much proved by posting your pictures. Its good to have good looks but thats not a choice unfortunately, you're either born with it, or you spend money on it. I'm not criticising and I'm glad for you, but it does effect mentality...I will give you an example, I'm not very good looking so I KNEW that I should never rely on my looks so I have to work harder in my game and routines, you will be surprised that once you game you will have hot girls talking laughing and talking to you (most of my female friends are 7.5+) and I know it because the way they treat me has nothing to do with looks. So when I'm talking to girls, I forget about my big nose and baby face, and believe me it will make you feel like you're the hottest guy around once you get a few positive results....

Advice to all, wether you look good or not, forget about how you look and make an approach FOCUSING PURELY on your routines, your mentality should be "I'm feeling great at the moment and look good", 2 mins into the conversation it doesn't matter what you look like, ever wondered why you saw an ugly guy with a really hot girl? don't hate, the ugly guy deserves it, he gamed and got it.

I walk with my female friends and they spot a guy and they say he's hot watching him from distance, the minute he does something stupid they lose interest and start cussing him, its funny!

good luck
That's what I'm doing, but like I said to Vaj, maybe it's something unconscious that I'm not aware of? I don't know


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The way you will get around your insecurities is by starting fresh and thinking "you know what, I don't give a fuck what she/he/they think, I'm me!"

Your not a bad looking guy, of course looks can help, but again, not the base of pickup, be good to speak with, understanding, funny, risky and cocky and women will feel the vibe around you, trust me.

Start fresh, and get out this weekend, push past your barriers!

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They can't see your scars in a nightclub lol.

Even hen you get out of the nightclub-little amount of alchohol in ttheir blood makes you look much more attractive to them. (that's why when you wake up in the morning after a drunk night and find yourself in a bed with an ugly girl)Don't worry about looks, keep practicing. I'm 172cm(5,8 in USA) by the way.


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The way you will get around your insecurities is by starting fresh and thinking "you know what, I don't give a fuck what she/he/they think, I'm me!"

Your not a bad looking guy, of course looks can help, but again, not the base of pickup, be good to speak with, understanding, funny, risky and cocky and women will feel the vibe around you, trust me.

Start fresh, and get out this weekend, push past your barriers!
Thanks Chelios, great advise :D
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They can't see your scars in a nightclub lol.

Even hen you get out of the nightclub-little amount of alchohol in ttheir blood makes you look much more attractive to them. (that's why when you wake up in the morning after a drunk night and find yourself in a bed with an ugly girl)Don't worry about looks, keep practicing. I'm 172cm(5,8 in USA) by the way.


Yeah, that's true, maybe I'm too conscious about them and that's what makes me get into my head


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Thank you guys, those words really helps me, I think my main problem is my subconscious insecurity, you know maybe some kind of body language I'm not aware of... so I'll work more on my inner game

thank you all!
Totally missing the point.

Prove to yourself you can do it, by making adjustments to your game till it works on the hot chicks. that is what you need to do.


Don't dive into lala land they call 'inner game'

It's mostly bullshit, just like your insecurities. And what happens when you add bullshit to bullshit? A bigger heap of bullshit takes form.

Yea but how do I know whats going wrong? I mean, it could be thousands of factors, maybe what I say, maybe how I'm saying it, maybe my body language, maybe my tonality, maybe my eye contact, maybe etcccc.

I can do my best, but maybe I'm doing something unconscious that I'm not aware of, how can I watch myself approaching? lol, I can't bring a camcorder to the club and record myself
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My friend, I think you're relying on your looks too much proved by posting your pictures. Its good to have good looks but thats not a choice unfortunately, you're either born with it, or you spend money on it. I'm not criticising and I'm glad for you, but it does effect mentality...I will give you an example, I'm not very good looking so I KNEW that I should never rely on my looks so I have to work harder in my game and routines, you will be surprised that once you game you will have hot girls talking laughing and talking to you (most of my female friends are 7.5+) and I know it because the way they treat me has nothing to do with looks. So when I'm talking to girls, I forget about my big nose and baby face, and believe me it will make you feel like you're the hottest guy around once you get a few positive results....

Advice to all, wether you look good or not, forget about how you look and make an approach FOCUSING PURELY on your routines, your mentality should be "I'm feeling great at the moment and look good", 2 mins into the conversation it doesn't matter what you look like, ever wondered why you saw an ugly guy with a really hot girl? don't hate, the ugly guy deserves it, he gamed and got it.

I walk with my female friends and they spot a guy and they say he's hot watching him from distance, the minute he does something stupid they lose interest and start cussing him, its funny!

good luck
That's what I'm doing, but like I said to Vaj, maybe it's something unconscious that I'm not aware of? I don't know
It's no hocus pocus.

How do you act around hb 4,5,6's?
Compare that how you act around hb 8,9's


Also I'm doubting you're really looking for help. It looks like you're just here to bitch and moan about your 'pathetic situation'. Boohoo.

If you took jurupa's advice to heart, this thread would be over.


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