So I can manage to get the girls number. I text and chat with them a bit. But I can never get them on a date. It always just fizzles out through text message. I don't know how to make them want to see me again. The conversations always friendly...maybe I'm not direct enough, or something I dont know.

Probably. I just shoot the shit for a little bit and then I ask when she's free the next few days. I texted her in the first place to get a date, not to make small talk. If she stops texting you or ignores that you invited her out, call her out on it. I don't know about you, but I don't waste my time having multiple conversations with people I'll never meet.

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I agree with minsok. A lot of people make the mistake of trying to build comfort by texting with a girl. But basically you'd do well to think of texting just as a way to organize a face-to-face meeting. That's what your aim should always be: getting the girl in the same room with you. When you get a girl's number, plan something fun, and ask her out soon. If you dawdle around with texting back and forth, but don't pull the trigger and suggest a meeting, she'll lose interest.

Good luck, man.

Ciornia

Carlos Xuma says in his Audiobook "approaching women" that if you don't get the date even though you have #-close you didn't make her comfterable enough during your first appraoch.

That is pretty much my problem too, I can get numbers, I'm very direct that I want them, sometimes it's the first thing I say: "Hey, I was just passing by, but can I get your number?" even though I get the numbers I can not use them.

One time I got a number and a date, but I spent over 2 hours talking to the girl before I #-close and I feel that is way too much.

guys are always saying that getting a girl's number is like a trophy of conquest but it's all rubbish, getting a girl's number is a link of the first meeting to the next. every guy can get a girl's number may be real or fake, but in order to really succeed, it's all about the impact and rapport u gained in the 1st meeting that really matters before the number close.

one can do abit of texting game to continue the interaction from the 1st meeting. sound like you're fun, sociable, very busy and when you ask her in the text what she has been up to recently, look for the key words in the text (hooks) and connect on them, make her feel good about herself, do some playful stuff. perhaps this should go on for about 3-5 texts. then when you arrange a date, im going to say this once which every guy should know

DONT EVER EVER EVER ASK ANYTHING, NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTION MARKS

YOU MAKE AN OFFER. there's a big difference between asking and offering. make it seem like you have a busy schedule and can only allocate one time for her. the cardinal way of doing this is "hey, it would be cool to meet up for a drink sometime" or "we should meet up sometime". after you say this, make an offer of the time and the place. but in order to test a girl's interest, if you make the offer and she turns you down but does not suggest another time, then it means that you did not create enough impact and not enough rapport and that it is advisable not to continue anymore with this chick and move on.

Talked to a girl on the phone yesterday for about 40 minutes. Built a lot of comfort, if I hadn't done that, I'm almost positive she'd flake on me when we go out tomorrow. Every time I've TALKED to a girl on the phone, it's led to a date because I'm pretty good at actual conversation. That conversation was seriously worth a month of texting. Girls that won't talk on the phone with you aren't going to meet up with you either, duh.

Disagree with the thinking that just because a girl doesn't suggest another time it means she's not interested. First, that's insecure, why would you assume a girl isn't interested unless you've CLEARLY done something wrong. Never assume that, unless you think you're just a boring tool. Second, there's a ton of reasons a girl won't suggest a second time: she wants you to take the lead and decide another time for her, she's young or constantly given attention and has never needed to put in that effort before. Doesn't mean anything, give her a call and you can more accurately feel out what's going on, how enthusiastic she is.

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I disagree with not asking anything in the text messages, but I never initiate with the questions. A little bit of fluff can be good to create a pseudo-comfort, or keep up the comfort level from the initial meeting.

That being said, I am never the one to ask first. I will reciprocate if the conversation lends itself to me asking a question back.

Keep in mind though that it is a little weird to be poring your deepest darkest secrets, or asking, via SMS. Keep it light, and mirror her actions and questions rather than ask your own.

I had horrible text game, and was in the same situation as you taciturn. I read a little article on the forum here, and tried to work aspects of my regular game into my texting game, and I have had a lot more success recently.

I can't post the link to it based on account restrictions, but it's called the "7 Essential Rules of Texting" and it's from this forum.

Give it a read, let me know what you think.

Some girls are pretty shy or not used to pushing the conversation. At that point you'll find that you have to ask a lot of questions to push shit along. It's boring, but it's also okay to show interest if you're not ridiculous about it. Of course you're interested, that's why you're talking in the first place.

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