If you don't know what the 5 lies game is, look it up. Style posted it up in the routines sections, and I believe it is sticky'd:

There you are, you've got the number, got the date, got the rapport... but still, you've got nothing. She likes you, this is obvious. She is used to guys making moves, she has a lot of guy friends and you're well on your way to becoming one of them. You've tried to make it obvious you want her, as subtly and awkwardly as you can (she knows it, too) and here you are, sitting across from her wishing you could just swipe a kiss. "You know, I have been thinking about this a lot lately(feel free to omit the "a lot "), you are obviously well versed when it comes to guys trying to get physical with you, and most likely, u've noticed most lie to get there, it is in our nature" (point at yourself, wink if you must, the implication is that, yes, after all, you are a man) " I won't lie, I find you very attractive, but rather than use false pretenses or wild hyperboles of my endevors/worth(cause you're different than the others, thats why she is here with you), I have been doing my best to ignore my attraction and be an honest person, good friend and a gentleman(you pussy)" "But I can't deny it(so honest), So I want to try a little role-reversal(it is the 90's, after all), instead of me lying to you to get a kiss, I want you to lie to me" Then you roll into the 5 lies routine. The stakes: a kiss on the cheek (seems harmless enough) against you buying her favorite drink, when you finally get her on the routine(you will), and she goes in for the cheek peck, you pull the quick-turn-kiss-on-the-lips. Smile, gaze and say "ok, i might have lied a little(in my nature, I am a man, after all), but you started it" BAM! If you're butt ugly and she is offended, well, guess what, you weren't getting any anyway. Chances are, she will appreciate the playful cleverness of it all, and you can always offer to buy her that drink after all. PROPS TO Mr STRAUSS for opening up the world of pick up via his book and prose, an honest man with positive intentions is destined to find his happiness, and Strauss is a testament to this. I give this routine up for the use of GOOD, not EVIL, For all you Mystery wannabes out there with your thumb in your mouth and a harddrive full of demeaning porn, you're not ready yet to be using quality game without quality intentions. Stick to the dumb scarf, YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE:

"gates of heaven, oceans 11?" "be good to my friends, we will meet again"...please...

OR

You could just escalate on her until she either fucks you or says "I really really don't want to please stop" and then you move on.

Seems a lot easier than memorising a paragraph of bullshit just to essentially trick her into kissing you.


You're almost there with the being honest part. Except why not START the interaction that way and STAY honest the whole time.

=> TELL her you think she's hot BEFORE you ever have the opportunity to fall into the friend zone in the first place (i.e. as soon as possible)

That way she KNOWS what your intentions are, rather than you masking them behind a bunch of indirect bullshit for so long that she assumes you just wanna be friends / she's not your type / you're gay / you're a pussy.

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Please note, This is a routine for those who have fucked up their game up to this point. It is just an attempt of throwing in some playful physical stuff. It beats telling your date about your sea horses, or plastic orchids, or what ever else you have been talking about. Watch the vids at the bottom of the main page to find out how to imply the sexual nature of a relationship INITIALLY, but seeing as you're in the friend zone already, maybe this will help you get out. DONT read this paragraph of bullshit verbatim, as it is over embelished to emphasize the points you should be trying to project throughout this routine. for more info on how to be a stud, PM blondguy...

I agree with blondguy, that's a lot to remember... It's much simper and easier just to make moves instead and be persistant. Most guys don't make moves, especially not after they've had resistance... Which is why they end up in the friend zone...

Insert, I really feel as though you should have posted this like two days ago because I was bored on a day3 with this girl and used 5 lies to fill in time... I'm on my way to the friend zone and this would have been KILLER... Thank you, but at the same time, damn you. HA