Hey guys i posted few days ago and i got alot of info saying when walkin past a girl in the halls eye contact is good to see if their intersted or not then i read the thread on eye contact examples. My problem is that i tryed to make eye contact with every girl i can possibly make eye contact with but i ended up noticing that i didnt get a single girl to look at me wtf is up with that? NOT a single girl looked at me why? is there something im missing?

First off, are you smilling?

If you are, try to adjust the timing of your smile to induce a smile back: too ealry and you'll look like a creep, to late and you look to eager.

From there try this one trick a buddy of mine told me about.

look at her to give her the feeling that she's being watched, but make sure you look away before she looks at you.

when you then feel her looking at you, lookt at her, as if you've caught her looking at you, then smile. If you can get this far in eye contact, starting a convo is easier: no lines are needed. just hi, my name is blank

hard to get the hang of, but the good thing is that you can practice anywhere.

hope it helps

Interesting little exercise, eye-Z. I may have to try that out.
Also good what you said about smiling and timing.

Anyway, PUA to be, you'll realize that most people are not very social.
My grandfather used to say this about snakes "They're just as afraid
of you as you are of them."

By you going out and just trying to initiate eye contact makes you
100 times more social than those girls who wouldn't even look you
in the eye! Think about it.

One other thing to try is as you are walking, whether you get eye
contact or not, is to just say something like, "Hey, how've you been?"
or "Hey, what's up?", and just keep on walking. Don't even bother to
stop or look back.

You'll feel better about yourself whether you got eye contact or not.
You'll come off as a laid back guy who's just cruising along saying
hi to people without needing anything back from them.

Learn to give without seeking something in return. That's a big part of it.

oh well i dont smile at them because after reading alot of the threads on here most of then said dont smile untill they smile so i thought i shouldnt smile... what do you guys think about that

not smiling will surely get u nowhere, woul du pay attention who is all serious and shit...

agree/disagree

I think smiling (and lack there of) is important in certain contexts. I think initially, everyone who thinks highly of themselves, and is genuinely interested in others should smile, even if they're smiling at nothing. Smiling shows you're open, laid back, and being the alpha male you should be, smiling shows that you're ready to take on adversity and become a better person from it.

On the flipside,

If you're in a set, and your target is constantly trying to get the attention of the group and sort of shun you off. Then wipe the smile away, look at her and throw in a neg. Same with another man trying to AMOG you, why would you want to smile at a guy going for YOUR target and trying to disarm the rest of YOUR set? That's your job, show him how fake he looks by his cheap plastic smile.

CLz

oh ok so smile = good? k ima give that a try see how that works

Thanks

I consider myself mediocre advanced with this topic. I use EC constantly when talking to HBs and even guys too. First off, nothing is awkawrd unless YOU make it awkward, and subconsciously, you will telegraph your awkwardness to the other person through your body language and next thing you know, it is awkward. I stay away from this idea..

When talking to an HB, I hold eye contact as long as I can. I make it seem natural. I think it displays confidence, and see it as whoever looks away first has lower value. BC if you think about it, when you are really engaged in a topic with someone, you two are holding EC for minutes at a time but you do not think about how awkward it is or how long it has been since you have looked away because it is natural. I think holding EC is important and somewhat establishes superiority over someone else. If someone is awkward with me giving them constant EC with very little looks to the right and left, they can feel awkard, but for me I have done it so often now that it is natural for me to do this.

In addition, maintaining EC is also important while story telling, AND laughing. If you tell a story that wasn't really funny, but you have a good laugh and make EC with an HB while laughing, I am sure it will be contagious. This kind of goes into Style when he met up with Tom Cruise. Cruise's laugh was just alpha, and when he laughed and made the EC, you couldn't help but to laugh yourself. He was a natural alpha.

Just make sure you always have a little grin..

a good example of this is with my tutor, who I am trying to game.. the post is in the forum topic "Reeling her In" if you want to check it out. But anyway, this tutor is about 90 degrees to my left usually, but today she was on my right which was a little different for me because I was not use to tilting my head in that direction. In this situation, I could not sustain EC as long.. but the other days, we would be about 2-3 feet face to face, and while she would explain things to me, Iwould make straight EC, no awkwardness what so ever. I just looked into her eyes and over time, watched her pupils get larger and dilate (IOI). In my opinion, you should maintain EC with people and not back down and look away because that shows that you are inferior.. I am open to comments or opinions.. -Rye

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^ very helpfull thank you so ima be to make more eye contact with a smile on my face see how that works out... but what if the girl doenst even LOOK in ur direction whats that about? it makes me feel that they dont even see that im even there you know?

Dude.. don't let it affect you. You are breaking the first rule of PUA. DO NOT BE AFFECTED BY WOMEN. You are overanalyzing, and if you think you are going to be a PUA with that attitude caring who looks at you and who does not, how are you going to face rejection?

Learn to Peacock, get some piercings, get a thumb ring, whatever, a necklace, anything that is cool. Keep smiling and making EC cause sooner or later that random HB9 will smile back and you will feel like a KING.

Walk like Superman, if you were him. Chest out, chin up, looking at the world. Hands by sides casually no hands in pockets. Eyes Open. It only goes uphill once you have mastered this man.. -Rye

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While you make EC with a girl during a convo and she looks down...is that an IOI or an impression that she's not interested? I'm talking about high school girls too btw.

hey guys umm i keep hearing the word peacocking.. what does it mean? is it to like make your self stand out more with random shit like you said thumb rings piercings?

I like having a little grin on my face more than a huge smile... (while walking in the streets)

Wait I don't understand. You can't get people look back at you.

I dont think its that you are not smiling. It is probably your posture I think.

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^ i highly doubt that bro im into working out i work out i am pretty built in my opinion its just me naturally i have my chest out stright back in highschool people used to think i pretend to be pumped up like that but honestly its just how i am im stirght standing back stright chest poped out i got the right posture i got the green eyes i got the guitar hobby i dress to impress at all times iono maybe these girls just can read my mind and they just know im shy and i dont like to socialize i dont know..