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PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:01 pm 
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Me: Xxxxx! So I have a question for ya

Her: Go for it/What is it?

Me: Are you just the hit and quit it kinda girl? Because if you are then that's fine but if not.. then I'd like to get to know you a bit better


PS: We hooked up a few nights ago


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Are you just the hit and quit it kinda girl? Because if you are then that's fine but if not.. then I'd like to get to know you a bit better
You might as well have just called her a little slut.

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Are you just the hit and quit it kinda girl? Because if you are then that's fine but if not.. then I'd like to get to know you a bit better
You might as well have just called her a little slut.
Yeah.

The idea is to be completely NON JUDGMENTAL about her sex life, past and present. You basically said you'd only be into her (want to see her again) if she doesn't do SNLs.

Why do that?

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Are you just the hit and quit it kinda girl? Because if you are then that's fine but if not.. then I'd like to get to know you a bit better
You might as well have just called her a little slut.
Yeah.

The idea is to be completely NON JUDGMENTAL about her sex life, past and present. You basically said you'd only be into her (want to see her again) if she doesn't do SNLs.

Why do that?
TBH, that's how I feel. If she's just into hook ups (which I don't think she is) then I'll just go for someone else. She's worthy to be pursued for a relationship though IMO. Basically what I would be trying to get across with that text is that I'm interested in her in a non-hookup way. I was hanging out with her and her/our friends last night and she saw me flirting with the other girls.. hence a player vibe? and she seemed like she didn't like that. I'm thinking this text would help her see where I'm coming from... Any better ideas for a text to do this?


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I'm sorry but that text was an absolute train wreck.
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Basically what I would be trying to get across with that text is that I'm interested in her in a non-hookup way.
You do this by DEMONSTRATING to her you see her in a non-hookup way.

You take her out, you make her feel like she's the only one in the world.

What is it with guys who feel they need to get a verbal confirmation from a girl.
'You wanna be my girl? Great... please can I have that in writing. Now I can move this forward!!!?'

Quit with this pick-up routine you think you know. You're not doing anything but making her feel like a slut... Come on.

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Wow dude, you must not like having your testicles attached because that is a great way to get them bitten off.


I have known some real bonified sluts in my day and not a single one of them ever thought of themselves as a slut and they would have been pissed as hell if anyone had implied that they were slutty or indescriminate. There is not one woman on the entire planet Earth that will admit to being a "hit it and quit it" kind of girl, even if they are.

I have also known countless decent and every single one of them would be deeply offended at what you are suggesting and all of them would greatly share what a rat turd you are with all their friends.

Now to address your question, you can never go wrong by assuming that NO woman practices SNLs and one night stands or any kind of recreation sex as a lifestyle choice. If you treat all women with dignity and respect and assume that they are a normal and healthy person you will never piss someone off or hurt their feelings.

You already know that she fucks people outside of an exclusive serious relationship so why keep probing in that area.

There is one sure-fire way to find out if she is relationship material or not and that is called DATING. If you date her for a period of time and are around her and her friends and family you will eventually come to find out what kind of person she is. If she fucks around on you, you will find out she fucks around. If she is faithfull and loyal to her dating partners you will find that out too.


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What is it with guys who feel they need to get a verbal confirmation from a girl.
'You wanna be my girl? Great... please can I have that in writing. Now I can move this forward!!!?'

Quit with this pick-up routine you think you know. You're not doing anything but making her feel like a slut... Come on.
Yeah totally. There are no guarentees upfront if someone is the one for you. You have to put yourself out there and find out yourself.

Every single girl on the planet views herself as dating material and not a sperm recepticle for whatever guy comes along. You will piss people off and look like the world's biggest jackass for even asking that question.


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You're not doing anything but making her feel like a slut... Come on.
Not only that, you'd be fucking it up even if you were just wanting to bone a slut. The quickest way to get kicked out of slut's bed and to have her badmouth you all over town is to make her feel like a slut.

If you make a decent girl feel like a slut you are dead in the water.


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Haha ok ok I get it! I definitely won't send this. I guess it sounded way better in my mind.

My problem right now though is that she seemed off'd the other night. So you really think I should just act like I'm into her the next time I see her? I just feel a pre-frame would go a bit better for me. Also, I don't want to come of NEEDY.


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Wow dude, you must not like having your testicles attached because that is a great way to get them bitten off.
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K so I'm just going to update the text convo for sh*ts

Me: Xxxxx! So I have a question for ya (just to provoke a response)

Her: Yes sir?

Me: Actually it's not really a question but I better see you at movie night tonight!

Her: I'm actually headed to *** to go boarding!

Me: Wth how could u do this to me? We both know dogs don't make the best cuddle buddies but I guess it will just have to do :/

*No response*

Just perfect... I'm gonna go cry now


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Me: Wth how could u do this to me? We both know dogs don't make the best cuddle buddies but I guess it will just have to do :/
That is definition of AFC. What your telling her is your desperate and needy. Anytime a girl flakes on you want to act like your unaffected by it, cause your the one having fun and shes going to be missing out

An example reply: "Have fun falling on ur ass all day while me and my buds enjoy a WARM popcorn ;) "


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Me: Wth how could u do this to me? We both know dogs don't make the best cuddle buddies but I guess it will just have to do :/
You actually sent this?

Listen, based on your previous idea and then this, I would say your mindset is not in the right frame.

Regardless of whether you're looking for a fuckbuddy, a long term girlfriend, a kinky sex-slave, or whatever else, you HAVE to be relatively non-committal at the start of ANY relationship.

Lets take a look at why from the GIRL's perspective.

Any girl who's relatively attractive and non totally fucked in the head (hell, even some who are totally fucked in the head - take THAT my ex gf!) will probably have at least 2-3 different options in terms of guys they could probably hook up with. Depending on how she rationalises her behaviour so as not to be a slut to society whilst at the same time satisfying her innate sexual desires, she could be fucking all three, or having one guy just taking her out to dinners and not giving him any, making out with one guy when they go out clubbing, and actually fucking just one, or whatever.

So, we got guys A, B and C.

Now. She goes out with guy A a couple of times, and they have a really nice conversation and seem to have a bunch of stuff in common, but there doesn't seem to be that "chemistry" to her (i.e. he doesn't turn the conversation sexual, be flirty, touch, or escalate properly) - she will keep allowing him to take her out to nice dinners, but that guy's friend zoned.

Then we have guy B and C.

She's attracted to them both and ends up sleeping with both of them after seeing them a couple of times. For purposes of argumentation, they're equally attractive to her and the sex is identically as good.

EXCEPT. She gets a nice text from B saying how fun last night was, then doesn't hear from him for a while. Was she really bad? Is he not that into her? What's going on? All this time she's thinking about him. Then she gets a text out of the blue inviting her to a really fun social gathering with him. When she gets there, he's the social centre of the situation, surrounded by other hot girls who he seems to have a lot of chemistry with - have they slept together before? Are they really good friends? Are they flirting with him? All these questions are going around in her mind. But at the end of the night after having a great time and dancing and kissing, eventually he takes her back to his place. She feels so HAPPY he chose HER. Yay! Then another few days go by and NOTHING. Maybe she should just call him. No, that would be weak. Wait,wait wait. Finally after another week, he calls again and invites her out. YAY!

On the other hand, C texts her the next day and thanks her for an amazing time and asks her what she's doing tomorrow. Uh, tomorrow? She doesn't know, but probably with a friend. Ok, he texts back immediately, what about the day after? OK, she says. Then he takes her out to another similar place again, just the two of them. He says how awesome she is and how great last time was, again. OK, she thinks, so we have sex once and suddenly this guy is like, totally in love with me. She knows she;s "got him." Does he get laid that night? Probably not. After a while of him being too available and always wanting to see her (don't you have other friends to see or anything going on in your life, she thinks) she eventually gets kind of bored and turned off by the constant pressure. She says she's not really looking for a relationship right now (it's not you, it's me) and runs away from being PRESSURED into something with C to CHASING guy B.

Now.

When you look at your first message, what you IMPLIED through your words was:

I need you to make a commitment RIGHT NOW to be in some kind of relationship with me. Just a quick fuck is not good enough. I demand complete monogamy from you immediately. Anything less and I consider you a whore.

I don't know what the background is, but unless you've been going out for MONTHS and have had great sex a whole lot of times, saying anything like this is fucking retarded. What does she owe you? You guys barely know each other, you've had sex ONCE, and suddenly you're making her decide to be with you and cut off all of her other possible options. Uh, NO.

You're expecting WAY too much emotional investment from her WAY too early on - this looks NEEDY because the only reason you would demand this is if YOU'VE invested at least as much as you're expecting her to invest. I.E. she gives you some pussy once and you're in love with her.

Second text I highlighted above.

Again, initially you were like "you HAVE to come to this movie" or whatever. I initially saw this as in "omg we GOTTA go to this thing it'll be amazing" but actually the interpretation is more like "PLEASE come with me otherwise my poor puppy eyes will fill with tears of TORMET AND DESPAIR"

and hey presto, when she was busy with something else (i.e. she has a LIFE OUTSIDE OF YOU) you respond with

"OMG now I have to stay at home alone with my dog because I have no life outside of you and no other friends to go see a movie with. Boo hoo."

Get it?

In conclusion

1. Be busy
2. Have lots of options
3. Don't hang all your hopes up on 1 girl
4. Don't overcommit (even in your thinking) to much too soon
5. Don't expect ANYTHING from her. Judge her level of investment in you based on her compliance.
6. Don't text her more than once a day, or every other day. Give her 2 texts for every 1 she sends you, and always wait 2x as long to respond as she did to reply to you.
7. Don't see her more than 1-2x per week.
8. Be gaming other women ALL THE TIME.
9. Don't verbalise or ask about levels of commitment. Don't bring stuff like that out in the open. Instead SHOW her you're into her by making the experience when you do see her AMAZING, and JUDGE how into you she is based on what she says and how she acts.
10. Don't be a pussy.

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Me: Wth how could u do this to me? We both know dogs don't make the best cuddle buddies but I guess it will just have to do :/
You actually sent this?

Listen, based on your previous idea and then this, I would say your mindset is not in the right frame.

Regardless of whether you're looking for a fuckbuddy, a long term girlfriend, a kinky sex-slave, or whatever else, you HAVE to be relatively non-committal at the start of ANY relationship.

Lets take a look at why from the GIRL's perspective.

Any girl who's relatively attractive and non totally fucked in the head (hell, even some who are totally fucked in the head - take THAT my ex gf!) will probably have at least 2-3 different options in terms of guys they could probably hook up with. Depending on how she rationalises her behaviour so as not to be a slut to society whilst at the same time satisfying her innate sexual desires, she could be fucking all three, or having one guy just taking her out to dinners and not giving him any, making out with one guy when they go out clubbing, and actually fucking just one, or whatever.

So, we got guys A, B and C.

Now. She goes out with guy A a couple of times, and they have a really nice conversation and seem to have a bunch of stuff in common, but there doesn't seem to be that "chemistry" to her (i.e. he doesn't turn the conversation sexual, be flirty, touch, or escalate properly) - she will keep allowing him to take her out to nice dinners, but that guy's friend zoned.

Then we have guy B and C.

She's attracted to them both and ends up sleeping with both of them after seeing them a couple of times. For purposes of argumentation, they're equally attractive to her and the sex is identically as good.

EXCEPT. She gets a nice text from B saying how fun last night was, then doesn't hear from him for a while. Was she really bad? Is he not that into her? What's going on? All this time she's thinking about him. Then she gets a text out of the blue inviting her to a really fun social gathering with him. When she gets there, he's the social centre of the situation, surrounded by other hot girls who he seems to have a lot of chemistry with - have they slept together before? Are they really good friends? Are they flirting with him? All these questions are going around in her mind. But at the end of the night after having a great time and dancing and kissing, eventually he takes her back to his place. She feels so HAPPY he chose HER. Yay! Then another few days go by and NOTHING. Maybe she should just call him. No, that would be weak. Wait,wait wait. Finally after another week, he calls again and invites her out. YAY!

On the other hand, C texts her the next day and thanks her for an amazing time and asks her what she's doing tomorrow. Uh, tomorrow? She doesn't know, but probably with a friend. Ok, he texts back immediately, what about the day after? OK, she says. Then he takes her out to another similar place again, just the two of them. He says how awesome she is and how great last time was, again. OK, she thinks, so we have sex once and suddenly this guy is like, totally in love with me. She knows she;s "got him." Does he get laid that night? Probably not. After a while of him being too available and always wanting to see her (don't you have other friends to see or anything going on in your life, she thinks) she eventually gets kind of bored and turned off by the constant pressure. She says she's not really looking for a relationship right now (it's not you, it's me) and runs away from being PRESSURED into something with C to CHASING guy B.

Now.

When you look at your first message, what you IMPLIED through your words was:

I need you to make a commitment RIGHT NOW to be in some kind of relationship with me. Just a quick fuck is not good enough. I demand complete monogamy from you immediately. Anything less and I consider you a whore.

I don't know what the background is, but unless you've been going out for MONTHS and have had great sex a whole lot of times, saying anything like this is fucking retarded. What does she owe you? You guys barely know each other, you've had sex ONCE, and suddenly you're making her decide to be with you and cut off all of her other possible options. Uh, NO.

You're expecting WAY too much emotional investment from her WAY too early on - this looks NEEDY because the only reason you would demand this is if YOU'VE invested at least as much as you're expecting her to invest. I.E. she gives you some pussy once and you're in love with her.

Second text I highlighted above.

Again, initially you were like "you HAVE to come to this movie" or whatever. I initially saw this as in "omg we GOTTA go to this thing it'll be amazing" but actually the interpretation is more like "PLEASE come with me otherwise my poor puppy eyes will fill with tears of TORMET AND DESPAIR"

and hey presto, when she was busy with something else (i.e. she has a LIFE OUTSIDE OF YOU) you respond with

"OMG now I have to stay at home alone with my dog because I have no life outside of you and no other friends to go see a movie with. Boo hoo."

Get it?

In conclusion

1. Be busy
2. Have lots of options
3. Don't hang all your hopes up on 1 girl
4. Don't overcommit (even in your thinking) to much too soon
5. Don't expect ANYTHING from her. Judge her level of investment in you based on her compliance.
6. Don't text her more than once a day, or every other day. Give her 2 texts for every 1 she sends you, and always wait 2x as long to respond as she did to reply to you.
7. Don't see her more than 1-2x per week.
8. Be gaming other women ALL THE TIME.
9. Don't verbalise or ask about levels of commitment. Don't bring stuff like that out in the open. Instead SHOW her you're into her by making the experience when you do see her AMAZING, and JUDGE how into you she is based on what she says and how she acts.
10. Don't be a pussy.
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Me: Wth how could u do this to me? We both know dogs don't make the best cuddle buddies but I guess it will just have to do :/
You actually sent this?

Listen, based on your previous idea and then this, I would say your mindset is not in the right frame.

Regardless of whether you're looking for a fuckbuddy, a long term girlfriend, a kinky sex-slave, or whatever else, you HAVE to be relatively non-committal at the start of ANY relationship.

Lets take a look at why from the GIRL's perspective.

Any girl who's relatively attractive and non totally fucked in the head (hell, even some who are totally fucked in the head - take THAT my ex gf!) will probably have at least 2-3 different options in terms of guys they could probably hook up with. Depending on how she rationalises her behaviour so as not to be a slut to society whilst at the same time satisfying her innate sexual desires, she could be fucking all three, or having one guy just taking her out to dinners and not giving him any, making out with one guy when they go out clubbing, and actually fucking just one, or whatever.

So, we got guys A, B and C.

Now. She goes out with guy A a couple of times, and they have a really nice conversation and seem to have a bunch of stuff in common, but there doesn't seem to be that "chemistry" to her (i.e. he doesn't turn the conversation sexual, be flirty, touch, or escalate properly) - she will keep allowing him to take her out to nice dinners, but that guy's friend zoned.

Then we have guy B and C.

She's attracted to them both and ends up sleeping with both of them after seeing them a couple of times. For purposes of argumentation, they're equally attractive to her and the sex is identically as good.

EXCEPT. She gets a nice text from B saying how fun last night was, then doesn't hear from him for a while. Was she really bad? Is he not that into her? What's going on? All this time she's thinking about him. Then she gets a text out of the blue inviting her to a really fun social gathering with him. When she gets there, he's the social centre of the situation, surrounded by other hot girls who he seems to have a lot of chemistry with - have they slept together before? Are they really good friends? Are they flirting with him? All these questions are going around in her mind. But at the end of the night after having a great time and dancing and kissing, eventually he takes her back to his place. She feels so HAPPY he chose HER. Yay! Then another few days go by and NOTHING. Maybe she should just call him. No, that would be weak. Wait,wait wait. Finally after another week, he calls again and invites her out. YAY!

On the other hand, C texts her the next day and thanks her for an amazing time and asks her what she's doing tomorrow. Uh, tomorrow? She doesn't know, but probably with a friend. Ok, he texts back immediately, what about the day after? OK, she says. Then he takes her out to another similar place again, just the two of them. He says how awesome she is and how great last time was, again. OK, she thinks, so we have sex once and suddenly this guy is like, totally in love with me. She knows she;s "got him." Does he get laid that night? Probably not. After a while of him being too available and always wanting to see her (don't you have other friends to see or anything going on in your life, she thinks) she eventually gets kind of bored and turned off by the constant pressure. She says she's not really looking for a relationship right now (it's not you, it's me) and runs away from being PRESSURED into something with C to CHASING guy B.

Now.

When you look at your first message, what you IMPLIED through your words was:

I need you to make a commitment RIGHT NOW to be in some kind of relationship with me. Just a quick fuck is not good enough. I demand complete monogamy from you immediately. Anything less and I consider you a whore.

I don't know what the background is, but unless you've been going out for MONTHS and have had great sex a whole lot of times, saying anything like this is fucking retarded. What does she owe you? You guys barely know each other, you've had sex ONCE, and suddenly you're making her decide to be with you and cut off all of her other possible options. Uh, NO.

You're expecting WAY too much emotional investment from her WAY too early on - this looks NEEDY because the only reason you would demand this is if YOU'VE invested at least as much as you're expecting her to invest. I.E. she gives you some pussy once and you're in love with her.

Second text I highlighted above.

Again, initially you were like "you HAVE to come to this movie" or whatever. I initially saw this as in "omg we GOTTA go to this thing it'll be amazing" but actually the interpretation is more like "PLEASE come with me otherwise my poor puppy eyes will fill with tears of TORMET AND DESPAIR"

and hey presto, when she was busy with something else (i.e. she has a LIFE OUTSIDE OF YOU) you respond with

"OMG now I have to stay at home alone with my dog because I have no life outside of you and no other friends to go see a movie with. Boo hoo."

Get it?

In conclusion

1. Be busy
2. Have lots of options
3. Don't hang all your hopes up on 1 girl
4. Don't overcommit (even in your thinking) to much too soon
5. Don't expect ANYTHING from her. Judge her level of investment in you based on her compliance.
6. Don't text her more than once a day, or every other day. Give her 2 texts for every 1 she sends you, and always wait 2x as long to respond as she did to reply to you.
7. Don't see her more than 1-2x per week.
8. Be gaming other women ALL THE TIME.
9. Don't verbalise or ask about levels of commitment. Don't bring stuff like that out in the open. Instead SHOW her you're into her by making the experience when you do see her AMAZING, and JUDGE how into you she is based on what she says and how she acts.
10. Don't be a pussy.
Thanks blondguy, repped!

Like you said my mindset is not in the right frame. I've just got all flustered that I might lose her and it apparently shows. I guess I have a mild case of one-itis. It just sucks that she has to be the hottest and funnest girl in the group that I've been recently hanging out with, but yeah I'll be taking in your advice.

Oh and also that last text I sent was a planned movie night with other people and I thought the cuddling dog part was funny but over text she probably saw it as neediness like you pointed out. Should have second thought that one.

Just curious, you say to text her twice as much as she does? I see waiting longer as showing non-neediness but what is texting her more than she texts you showing?


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