I need suggested ways to make a move in a car on a very friend-zoned girl who hasn't gotten any action in a while. assume she is passenger seat, I am driver, and we just finished seeing a movie. Assume I was unable to make a move during the movie, possibly because there may be other people watching it with us.

My current idea is something like, "So it's been a while since you've done stuff with guys, huh? Would you like to fix that in the next couple of minutes?"

Also, I welcome suggestions for how to make a move on friend-zoned girl in movie theater, assuming we are not with friends.

Thanks in advance.

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Put your arm around her at the movies. That's all you can do, that's how men have been doing it for decades... because it actually works and is low risk. Or put you hand on hers if it's on the armrest. Hate it when a girl puts down the armrest (doesn't necessarily mean anything, though).

I think your way of opening her up to sex sucks. There are guys that say it's good to be that direct and sexual, but I think it demonstrates a lack of social skills. A female friend threw it out there, point blank asked me if I wanted to have sex. It really put me off. I was just like "Uh, no thanks," which is totally shitty and not smooth of me, but it really threw me off. Here's the thing, if she had just sort of eased me into it, stroked my ego a bit and did some seductive touching, I would have gone for it.

So, the point? Ease into it, be subtle, use kino, use close contact hugs where your hips meet. For in the car I'd say initiate a hug with her across the seats, then as she pulls away and your faces are still close, hold her still a second and look her firm in the eye, make a playful grin like you just thought of something, and then move in fairly slow and kiss her, but that's me. Worst case scenario she'll immediately interrupt you when you make eye contact and you can still try for the kiss, but she might back out at this point or she'll keep her lips still and won't really kiss back. Either way, not a huge rejection and she'll know what's on your mind without having to talk it out, which eliminates all the surprise and excitement, which women and sentimental old men enjoy.

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I'm going to pile onto this, your suggestion does not display confident disregard for society's usual shaming of sexuality, it's actually a not so clever argument that she should fuck you.

Premise A) She hasn't gotten any in awhile
Premise B) You're available
Conclusion: You guys fuck

What's worse, making the argument in this fashion actually communicates that one of the strongest reasons she should fuck you is that you're alive and male, not that you're fun, or charming, or sexy, or passionate, or anything. You're basically volunteering to be a slump buster for her, and I doubt (this is a serious doubt) that this is the rare situation where you are much more desirable than her and are offering her a legitimate favor out of friendship.

Further to this, unless she's dropped hints, propositioning someone who thinks of you as a friend isn't 'making a move to get out of the friend zone', it's fucking creepy and duplicitous.

Dude, don't let women you have no interest in being friends with think you want to be their friend in hopes they will eventually be massaging your penis. Not only is this questionable on it's own, it's definitely not going to help you get laid. If you do actually care for her as a friend, then respectfully repress your desire for her and leave the matter closed. Make your intentions clear and you will never be in the 'friend zone' again.

Now go and find one of the many, many, beautiful, available ladies out there and chat her up!

Good luck man,

I like a lot of what this guy says. I disagree that you can't have sex with friends, but in my experience when you cross that line, your friendship does get put on ice until the romantic feelings are totally gone on both sides. It's not necessarily that you make friends with someone in the hope she'll let her guard down/be desperate enough to screw her, sometimes you make a friend and she becomes more attractive the longer you know her and the more intimate you become. Happens.

But yeah, you're not exactly a saint to offer to help her with her slump, there are tons of guys that will offer no strings sex if that's all she wanted. She's in a slump because she's holding out for something better (or she's utterly undesirable, in which case you are a saint). It's more likely you're in a slump and you want to use her to let off steam.

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G'day!
I was in a similar situation the other week. Once you're in the friend zone it's difficult clawing your way into sex zone haha.

It's important that your date with her is unique so plan out a few different locations to go to before and after the movies. You should start to 'kino escalate' as soon as you pick her up. Give her a 'friendly' massage or something before you even get to the movies so she feels comfortable with touching in the cinema.

A cool lookout after your date is always good, gives you a chance to get close again and it makes girls melt. I'd go for the peck then and "we shouldn't be doing this..." then make out "we really shouldn't be doing this..." take it back to the car and BOOM. As long as it seems spontaneous, and as though it 'just happened naturally' she should feel comfortable with it.

Go for gold!

Thanks for all the advice. To clarify, she is a great friend and I enjoy the friendship; I usually do not think of her in that way. I just thought I should go for it anyways since I really need to experience sex for real. I am already turning 21 and the last girl I tried to have sex with... couldn't. It was very emotionally traumatizing for me because she was very attractive with a curvy body. Then we broke up. do not make suggestions about how I COULD'VE done things to make the sex work out. The fact is she had been with over ten ex-boyfriends and none could ever make her truly aroused.

I am constantly jealous of people having sex that actually works out, actually being able to ENJOY it and DO it. I need to put more effort into doing it (if just once) and this is one of the venues. This might make me seem sort of weird and needy, at least until I finally get some. No, I do not want to hire a prostitute.

Another reason is that she hasn't exactly been ultra-friendzoning me and has said some semi-flirtatious things. For all I know, she's attracted to me; this would be a good way to find out.

Despite that I usually don't think about my friend in that way, I know it is something I would be able to enjoy with her. I believe the effort is worth the risk, because the worst case scenario I can imagine is a temporary awkwardness which dissipates after a while. Anyway, I only see her on vacation days because we go to different colleges.

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Sooooo, what you're saying is, you only know one girl and you're a virgin.

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She's friend-zoned, doesnt this make it impossible to make movements on her?

"Sooooo, what you're saying is, you only know one girl and you're a virgin."

I know very few girls right now; I can count how many I hang out with... about 5-10 in my college town, 2 in my hometown. Number of guys I hang out with is also about 5-10. Social life definitely not as good as when I was living in the dormitories. I'm going to join some clubs next semester to fix that. Actually I really love my friends; by "not as good" I mean not as plentiful.

I am not exactly a virgin; I am a half-virgin. Guys who know my story always try to reassure me I am not a virgin at all. I disagree, because I have higher standards for the word "intercourse."

"She's friend-zoned, doesnt this make it impossible to make movements on her?"

Never say never

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So it turns out my inklings of suspicion of her inklings of interest in me were correct! I feel like I should give a report.

Everything worked out great. For the initial move (very difficult; had a lot of adrenaline till I finally got over that barrier), I did arm over shoulder. Thank you, minsok.

We made out and petted a bit, no sex because she rejected escalation two times, but I wasn't expecting that anyway.

Told her I'd call her right as I was leaving; first time in my life I get unmistakable "doggy dinner bowl" face. Legendary. Feels amazing.

I sense exciting times ahead, a possible LTR, a possible ruined friendship, maybe less maybe more.

Never say never, Tubbly

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My ambition: http://www.maxloh.com/soundtracks

Confuse her: act like you want to fuck her but call her things like "friend". Sleep with her first, and then decide for yourself if you want something long term.

Well, one way or another, glad it worked out so smoothly. You don't have to sample the goods before you lock her down if you already want to date her.

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