Im just wondering how effective all of this is? How often do you guys have success while sarging and picking up women? If you use a certain method please post how often it works and why you think it works?

ie MM 60% because of how well it lets me interact wit a group due to group theory

Note: not trying to figure out the best method just trying to get a realistic expectation of pick up. I realize no guy can get every girl 100% of the time but if learning this and getting good at it lets me get a girl 80% of the time then it would still be worthwhile. Ive already started but like i said i just want to get an idea of what I can realistically expect.

Pick up is too much of a subjective thing to put a definitive figure on how successful you're gonna be. PUA doesn't make you successful with women, at the end of the day it comes down to you and your own personal style. There's too many variables to say one figure for everyone who does PUA. Just go out there, try some stuff, use trial and error to see what works for you, and get your percentage as close to 99% as you can

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well theres no real statistic you can put on it but i would say that pickup has improved my life alot. not even just because i can get women alot more succesfully now but because i understand attraction as a concept and how dating/female interaction work on a whole new level.

When i learnt MM (which was the third pua i looked at) i felt my game improve alot, and i felt like i understood LIFE alot more. looking at all the material he tells you i realized i had actually done almost ALL of it in my previous relationships. i just wasnt sure at the time what i was doing. first ever girlfriend i had was asian and it kind of just fell into place. looking back on it i realized i teased the shit out of her, false disqualified myself by saying "too bad your asian " and was the alpha male of our group. now i can relate these success into my future and succeed even more.

pua is a great life skill that i feel really benefits me. if you really want statistics id say when you start roughly 1 in 4 to 1 in 6 girls will give you there number fewer you will sleep with. but its like playing a sport. the first time you played basketball you were shit, after you practice you get better. the more you fail the more you learn. its all about learning man.

By putting weight on the success RATIO, you doom yourself to failure.

Most of us average guys are too shy to approach women because we are fragile. To us, getting 3/100 girls is not as good as getting 2/2 girls, because we start to think we are ugly or something. In fact 3 is greater than 2 (no matter how ugly you are), so our construction of high success rate as the definition of success is a FALLACY.

I'm definitely not the guy that goes out and talks to 5 girls a day, but I know that if I WERE I'd probably get some numbers and lays.

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dont put so much pressure on yourself and dont make an identity out of being a PUA. Both will hurt your game. Concentrate on being the best guy you can be and have fun while doing it and the girls will come naturally. If you identify yourself with being a PUA then every failure you have is going to sting even worse.

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