Would you like to go to Brazil and get one or two girls efficiently? Or get blown up by everyone? I suggest you take it slow and steady. Study everything you did and what they did, what you could've done to make things better. Remember the turtoise and the hare? Slow and steady wins the race.


SHE: I don't have credits...
You:So how are you suppose to survive when theres a bank robbery and you can't text for help? Thats a bit irresponsible don't you think? We'll at least your living dangerously. I like that. Hi my name is Daniel whats yours?

Keep up the good work my man, soon you will be PUADaniel!

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Thanks HappySlip, but what can I say... Okay, I might be wanting too much results but damn, I need those results man. I tired of being the needy one. I don't want to be patient. Yet, I understand that only focusing on PU is a problem: it's exhausting and can give me frustration. Also, as you said, I can get blown up by everyone if I don't do things correctly...

But man, on the other hand, I can't just stay at home... Once again, you told me... I have to find new activities... I can't keep on going out just for sarging... That will improve my confidence and give me new fields to practice... Currently I'm connecting with old friends in order to extend my social circle, so it will give me reasons to go out and meet new people.

Anyway, I understand when you say that I might need to slow down... but man... I have nothing to lose and everything to learn...
Nice one. I do need to be more spontaneous!

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Thanks guy for your support.

I actually agree with both visions... As I said, it's really exhausting to go out just to sarge... it takes a damn all day for few results... so it also brings frustration sometimes. So reconnecting with friends, finding an activity... can really help me since it will improve my confidence but also extend my social circle. That's a good point and will give me motivation to go on.

Yet as Hobbit says, it's a number game. I can't get experience if I don't put myself out there... The more I try, the more opportunities I don't let go. Plus, it will allow me to accept failure more easily.

Actually, I think both visions are compatible. But of course, I don't want to slow down. I think HappySlip do not want me to experience a burnout, and he's right... If I put myself out there every day just to practice, I might end like that. I have to take care of me... (since I already have troubles to sleep)
Thanks for the links, I need indeed to focus on conversations! I'll study them.

That reminds me of the compliance ladder (Vin Di Carlo)... I asked something too big, too early... I opened by asking compliance... You're right, it's not a good thing, I'm not good enough for that, you're right. I've learned a lot though! It allowed me to see the points I need to work on.

HappySlip and Hobbit, again, thanks for you support!

(I went out to see a friend of mine this afternoon HB8,5/9, and I'm going to have dinner with other friends... I'll post everything in DAY 12)
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I agree with you bro, Abe Lincoln lost his wife, lost a bunch of business ventures, lost a lot of political battles but in the end became on of the worlds greatest leaders. I never told Daniel to stop failing. I simply recommend that when he does let him do something that makes him feel better. When Abe lost these things he went out and read a lot of books to gain positive mental attitude. Theres no rush here man, theres no due date, no qouta. I also agree that going out of your comfort zone is a great thing because if your not living in the edge then your taking up too much space. The thing about being a PUA is a lot of people want instant gratification and if that doesn't happen they get so upset. Theres nothing wrong with planting seeds letting them grow for a bit and reap the fruits of your labor.

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DAY 12: meeting an old HB9 friend.
Touching, smiling and being rewarded

Connecting with old friends again.
Being in a LTR for 2 years has been a disaster when it comes to friends. Now that I'm done with that relationship, I have to extend my circle of friends in order to be social again. A few days ago, I noticed a good friend of mine came back from Shangai. She's a HB9 and we used to have a lot of fun together when we were classmate. I've always been in the friend zone, and actually never wanted more since we had always been with someone at that time. I met her at the mall.

My goals.
Today, I wanted to practice KINO, eye-contact, C&F and my smile. The idea was not to try to make out since she has a boyfriend but just create attraction.

Saying hello.
So here I was, at the mall. As I kissed her hello (welcome to France my friends), I started to do some KINO... I grabbed the side of her waist and then put my hand in the bottom of her back in order to show her the direction of the café. On the way, I started to speak with her focusing on making strong eye-contact and smiling.

At the café.
I started to be cocky and funny and make her laugh a lot. Once we've sit and ordered we started to speak about our common memories. I tried to keep the KINO but it was harder since she was sit in front of me.

THE CONVERSATION:
Since I have not seen her for 2 years, I tried to know a little bit more about her past relationships. She's an HB9 and used to date a former gymnastic champion but the guy cheated on her. At that time, I was the good (AFC) friend to cheer her up. I learned that she had several failed relationships with some guys (a one night stand, a casual relation with a 36 yo guy, another one...) and is now in a serious relationship. Actually, if I was not in the Game, I would have been disappointed/frustrated by all that... knowing that she has been in such weird relationships... But I've learned that all women have strange relationships... She also spoke a lot about how needy guys were unattractive. We also spoke about me and my relationships.

THE IOIs:
While we were speaking I noticed a lot of IOI:
- she touched my hands several times while speaking
- we did a 'hi 5'
- she joke about we being together: she told me she used to date a guy who can speak 5 languages, I said I also speak 5 languages and she said "hmm interesting... and laugh"
- I asked her several questions about sex and she answered to everything: asked her if the one-night stand was good, joke about her being in a threesome...
- she told me she could come to São Paulo to pay me a visit
- she sent me a text message after we said goodbye: "it was great to see you again..."

The income.
I think I succeeded in attracting her: she gave me a lot of IOI and I think she'll remember this rendez-vous. Too bad she's leaving, she would have been a great field of practice and a great way to DHV. This meeting gave me a lot of confidence. I think she will not see me with the same eyes now.

What I've learned.
- KINO seems to be magical: I have to become a pro of escalation.
- I have to climb higher on the compliance ladder: I had my 'hi 5', I should have asked for a picture of us, a hug...
- Generate attraction seems not to be so hard. The problem is I need to be comfortable with cold approaches first.

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DAY 12: going to the restaurant with friends.
Rebuilding social connections.

Hi guys, here's a small post to tell you about the dinner I had with some friends in Paris on DAY 12 (after seeing my old HB9 friend).

Decompartmentalizing groups of friends.
I've learned from Vin DiCarlo's Attraction Code that being social and having friends is crucial when it comes to show dominance (key element to attraction). So I decided to decompartmentalize my friends. Before, I used to have several groups of friends that I never mixed. Yet, I understood that the power was in the connection, the more I connect friends, the more I get value since I'm central piece that brings them together. So I invited a really good friend of mine to come with me to that dinner so he can meet the others.

My mindset.
I was really confident that night since I've met with an HB9 and it went well. I tried to be really social the all dinner long and it was cool. It gave me a lot of confidence.

What I've learned.
- Being with friends is good: good for my inner game, good for the Game.
- Connecting friends gives me value.

Next steps.
- Extend my social circle: meet new people!

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DAY 13: sarging with a wing.
Approaching indirectly in a mall.

Yesterday, I went out with a friend to sarge at one of the biggest mall of Paris. He actually has some notions of NLP and has read the Game so that was a great opportunity to sarge with him. We warmed up a little on the way to the mall by asking directions to strangers.

The goals.
- Approaching 5 sets
- Getting at least one name



In field.
The mall was opened on Sunday, but it was very slow. We hung out for more than 1 hour without doing nothing... without approaching... We were being silly. So I got an idea:

THE EXERCICE:
1) PLAYER & WING: set up a timer, 15 min in our case.
2) - PLAYER: Go on sarge and approach as many women as possible during that time.
- WING: Follow the PLAYER and observe every approach: body language, smile, eye-contact, KINO...
3) PLAYER & WING: when times out, meet and share feedbacks.
4) PLAYER & WING: switch roles.

THE RESULTS:
I started and opened 2 sets:
- I saw a beautiful HB9 walking with a Pepsi can. She was in a rush but I asked her where she got it. She almost ignored me but I managed to get an answer. She replied and I ejected: that was my first approach of the day

• 3 or 4 sentences
  BL: 2/5
  E-C: 1/5 (she was in a rush, was really hard to get her attention)
  Smile: 2/5 (I only smiled at the end of the interaction)
  C&F: 0/5
  KINO: 0/5
  GLOBAL:2/10

- Then I opened a set of 2 girls: HB6 & HB 6,5 and asked them where was the Footlocker store. They replied and began to give me different directions, I told them that they seem lost too with a smile. The conversation kept going: they told me they just came out of the Footlocker store. When I got the information, I ejecter... but I felt I could do better and asked their name and even maybe # close...

• 5 or 6 sentences
  BL: 3/5 (I was not static and looked confident)
  E-C: 3/5
  Smile: 3/5 (I smiled at the end of the interaction)
  C&F: 2/5 (I told them ther were lost too in a C&F way)
  KINO: 0/5 (I tried too but did not have the balls to do it)
  GLOBAL: 4/10

We switched roles and he opened 3 sets. (Hope he'll join the community to open a thread like this one). Since we were starting see the same people again and again as we were hanging out, we decided to take a break at a Starbuck's. When we came back to the Game, the mall was full of people! We did the same exercice but the opportunities did not show up so often and I killed the few I had. It went the same for my buddy but he still managed to approach a girl. Since I did not want to quit I tried a last approach in a store.

- I asked a HB7 in a sport store where I could find NFL caps. She did not know what NFL but since I have already uses this poor opener, I knew how to react and told her what it was and she replied that the caps were at the entrance of the store. I ejected.

• 3 or 4 sentences
  BL: 3/5
  E-C: 2/5
  Smile: 1/5
  C&F: 0/5
  KINO: 0/5
  GLOBAL: 2/10

Leaving stage.
We were exhausted so we left stage hoping that maybe we would achieve our goals in our way home (we did not).

What I've learned.
- It is not hard to open people.
- It is hard to make transition between the opener and the conversation stage.
- I have days with mojo, days without... My inner game is not strong enough!
- I need more experience!

Questions to move on.
None for now... I know what I have to do... I just have to go for it.

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@Hobbit

I don't even now what I can answer... I was sick but that's not an excuse at all.
I have good days and bad days... It was clearly a weak day for me... If it wasn't for the little exercise, I would have done nothing.

You're right, I should at least try to stay longer... that was the plan at the begining... Actually I'm tired of being by myself in malls for hours, having 10 opportunities and going for 3 of them and ejecting after 3 or 4 sentences. You're right and I know it.

Truth is Hobbit, since the first semester ended, I got back to live with my parents in Paris. My LTR f**ked up all my circle of friends. What I mean is that I have still one month here and then I go to Brazil, but this month is hell. I'm all by myself. Of course I have some friends but they work or can't see me often. So here I am, sarging by myself in malls, day after day, for hours (sh*t man, 2 years ago I was one of the most popular guy in my school...).

Currently I have 3 options:
- staying home and feel NEEDY and INSECURE
- going out by myself and sarge (what I have been doing almost everyday...)
- going out to see friends (I can't see them as often as I would like)

Don't get me wrong, I won't give up. I'm actually saying that there's 2 types of game for me currently:
- Day Game (approaching): I'm out almost every day to push my limits, to open, engage a conversation and so on... but I need BALLS to go further... and truth is being by myself 95% of the time (at home, sarging...) do not help me. Connecting with friends gives me confidence and allows me to feel less NEEDY & INSECURE.
- Social Game (meeting friends of friends): I'm currently trying to connect with some friends again in order to meet new people and practice on the "building attraction" part of the Game: I want to try KINO escalation, Push & Pull... partly because it's the fun part.

Tomorrow for example, I'm seeing another HB8/9 friend of mine. I have not seen her for two years. Even if I'm in the friend zone, chances are she's single and I'll be able to KINO and build attraction. I'm going out to get a drink with her. I think it's going to give me some confidence and motivation to go on.

Actually, I would like to know more about day game... I know it helps you fight AA, it gives you experience when it comes to approach strangers... but tons of people are telling me that sarging is overrated... the results are not worth it...

The community is really helpful, but sometimes I'm lost. I see 16 yo guys speaking about finger closing while being in the game for 2 weeks, I see others speaking about threesome and others being in the game for years and still failing. And there's me and my learning journal... going slow, putting myself out there and getting little results, even in my good days. I would like to know about guys that were like me and how they got results... which execises... day game? night game? social game? (what about your beginings Hobbit?)

Also, the problem is I came to the game while at the bottom (few friends, back to the parents' place, recent break up...). I'm tired of having regrets. So yes, I'm going to put myself out there again, and again, and again... Of course, sometimes I enjoy it, I enjoy feeling like a man when I maintain eye contact, I enjoy having a good body language... but in the end, when I come home... I'm still the same guy, all by myself and writing a post on that forum. It's still an exhausting chore for me... When does it feel better?

THANKS for following me Hobbit. I hope I don't sound to negative... That's not the case... but this kind of post helps me knowing where I am and what I want.

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@Hobbit

Another post to thank you for the link about Inner Game practical-attainment-of-inner-game-cont ... 67840.html ... The thread is great. I've just finished studying it, you're giving tons of elements to strenghten confidence and self-esteem. I'll take actions about it.

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I love that.

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Its nice to find another one of these PU progress journal type of things. I remember finding Choppers one very quickly after i joined this forum and found it very inspirational. Im glad i caught yours in the early stages of your transformation, and will continue to read your future posts.
Im at a kind of similar stage to you, but i have more AA.
Carry on inspiring please

@hobbit: thanks for sharing your experience. I would love to meet new people right now but as I told you, it's not as easy unfortunately. I might need to be more patient.

PrettyboyDave & HappySlip: It's funny but not sure it really works... Try it, you'll tell me!

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Thanks man, that kind of message gives me motivation to go on. I hope I'll get some results quickly: #-close etc...

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Yeah I know I read the post, but I love that routine, it is a simple yet cheeky one, would work in a club easily.
Daniel that would totally work in a club, I wouldn't use it as an opener, but as a method to get a number.