I could not find anything on this so if there is anything like that already on here please point me in the right direction.

I have on several occasions in my life encountered girls that are naturally touchy feely and send ioi's all the time. They love the attraction they get when they do this.

Some of them actually take it so far as that their body says kiss and fuck me now, but their mouth says I am not interested. And they really are not. The reason I know that is because one of these HBs is a really good friend of mine.

So how do we figure this shite out? how do I know its not real?

The reason I am asking is because yet again I think I came across one of these. She is a HB 9,5. I did my usual DHV stuff with her and she was hooked in seconds. Now some of my PUA mates know her and say she is one of these girls that keeps sending fake ioi's. One of them went on a few dates with her and it ended in a fuck up, she taught they were just meeting up as mates.

Is there anyway I can test if her interest is real?

Know this kind of girls too.

Generally they "use" you to boost their ego.

It is hard to find out, but soon enough you will. The only difference is that you will be (wasting) more time..

If she gives you the Number + kiss-close, then imo she must have some kind of interest.

But then again, some girls are just doing this for their own EGO-boost, but usually you can tell it by their way of acting. Flirty with Everything and everyone.

Well if she kisses me its on anyway. But what I mean she could send the signals and I go in for the kiss and it was to early. but than who gives a fuck. I think I might use a piece of advice my mother gave me many years ago: just hold her hand.

anyone got any other advice?

although i'm an afc, i'll give my 2 cents. I've encountered two of these girls in my life and i think that you just have to go for it... Most girls don't send out fake ioi's, and if they do, you miss one and move on- especially if it's a 9.5

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- Michael Jordan

try sticking your dick in her. if shes real, it'll work =D

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^genius.

the way i see it (but i pretty much never deal with these girls)

play hard to get to build attraction. do the mystery thing, if she touches you dont let her but be playful about it. false disqualify her: "you know your actually pretty cool, too bad your a touchy skank. .....too bad your a midget, or you cant cook or something or other."

if shes soo touchy shell probably make a STRONG move that will let you know. if not your just gunna have to be bold, grab her hand. micro escalate, or just get real drunk and go for a kiss. atleast you can say you were drunk.

the 3 reactions girls give you:

not interested
keeps you around to entertain her, aka boosting her ego
she wants it


so what i recommend is to stick ur dick in her and find out of she's real (^)

haha, some how I should have known that you guys would give me answers like that.

maybe tits or GTFO is the only way to go about it.

WE will see date line up for tomorrow. I do not care anyway, shagged a 29 yo brains out last night, I am 23.

Ask about her past, if she's open to you (you can sense it) then you know she's real. If she asked for yours, then it's another IOI, but again, you gotta trust your instinct.

Good luck package!

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"Because everything you felt at the end of the night was just an illusion." - Sorcerer (Singapore PUA)

I know one of these too. Ignore her and don't lie to yourself. There is no reason to be nice to her and don't even think about being friends with her. If you do that you admit that you are afraid to get sexual with her and chose to be her emotional doormat. Because hiding in her friend zone is what every insecure guy does, hoping to get sexual with her later

Destroy her ego in a witty way without being mad (ignoring, dirty teases, mention how other women like you and how you find other women hot. And last but not least tell her something bad about her looks like "heey, looks like you have gained a few pounds lately :d, but chubby women have their charms) and try to enjoy it.

She might say you're a dick but she'll want you. Many ppl out here might slaughter this advice but I don't see any harm in it

If you run after her, she will use you to boost her ego, then lose "interest" in you and dump you like an old pair of shoes. I see it happen over and over again

Dump her and use her before she can use you as a tool. I'm very serious

NoMoreMrNiceGuy, that's some really nice points there.

There are 3 types of guys: 1) bad 2) good and 3) nice.

Never ever fall under the last category. Women will just kick you around like a ball. Be a mixture of 3. Doing the right things at the right time is the key to a successful relationship and game.

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"Because everything you felt at the end of the night was just an illusion." - Sorcerer (Singapore PUA)

Source: Kezia Noble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN3_uref ... re=related

For all the nice guys out there that don't know this.. Watch this video and take the advice. She is 200% correct, I know that from hundreds of women. You don't have to be a complete asshole but nice guys NEVER WIN. My dad is one of them and he ended up in a pathetic relationship with a poor sex life. I have been a nice guy for years and I know. In 3 weeks I have changed and booked unbelievable success with multiple women

Ignore women, be confident, create the image of "I am untouchable" ,be ballsy.
My goal in 2011 is to STOP BEING FRIENDLY.
I try to disagree with her on everything she says, without being angry. And when she gets a bit upset, NEVER APOLOGIZE
For example:

Girl: "I love hiphop music, I think it's the best"
Nice guy (how I used to be) -> Ow yeah hiphop music rocks, I love it too
Player --> Pfft hiphop music is so cheesy, that's for teen girls and not for adults

Girl: " what do you think about my new black earrings? "
Nice guy -> I love it, looks great on you
Player -> It's oke, but I prefer white. This girl has hot earrings (--> bingo, jealousy rocks)

Girl texts " Will you come to that party with me? "
Nice guy instantly replies " Great, I can't wait. I'll be there in a moment "
Player waits for half an hour "I am on a date now and it's really exciting. Maybe later this evening "

And I'll play mind games with women until I have them cornered. By ignoring her, teasing her occasonionally and last but not least make her very jealous by constantly mentioning other women and how they want you. I started doing it this week and they are chasing me like puppies
In fact, the more women you have running after you, the more they'll want you. If you set 1 target as a goal, you'll end up failing like I used to