Hey guys,
I'm new to this PUA forum. First, a bit about me: I was brought up in a strictly religious family. I've never had a girlfriend or kissed girls. I had my chances, but I'm a picky guy. Every time I go for the hot girls, I'd get shy and I'd ruin my chances (Although I'm well in their league because I've been told I'm really good looking).
I'm 18 now. I'm off to university and I'm finally on my own.

I went to my first few frat parties and clubbing and I had no idea how to open to get girls. I was usually alone in the corner drinking and watching. Some guys had girls all over him and I had no idea what the fuck was going on.

So I ask you all: How do I open in clubs where everything is so goddam noisy? I've watched few of Gambler's videos and read David DeAngelo's eBook Double your Dating. I've also read The Game by Neil Strauss. I still don't feel as confident to f-close women...

Take it slow man. Seeing as you came from a strict family, and as you said you haven't had much experience with girls, don't immediately think about f-closing chicks, as this will make it seem like some daunting task.

The first thing to work on is basic social skills and inner game. You've been told you're a good looking guy, be confident! And when you go out, don't ever think you're sole aim of the night is to pull chicks - your aim is ALWAYS just to have a good time, if you happen to pull then great, if not, no loss - you still had fun. This mindset is vital, for me anyway.

Just get used to chatting to girls first, become more laid back and confident, and you'll notice a difference with women, and people in general, immediately.

~Deebo

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Based on people's reactions to you, you seem to have the physical initial value you need. (Looks, etc.) Many other people have a harder start-off with chicks than you, because girls are generally more receptive to hot guys and close off once they realize that although the guy is hot, he is a little bit of a dud.

Here is a rule of opening everywhere:

Don't think about opening. Its not "opening," or "closing." Technical terms like these that turn "game" into some schedule about doing A when B happens makes the game no fun. Open with whatever you like. A game like the 5-lies game by Style along with a bet will do fine. Or an opinion opener. Keep it basic, pick-up isn't a science, its an art.

Why are you trying to collect confidence to f-close? Heck, why are you thinking about closing the minute you open? If you open a girl with intention of f-closing her, IMO, you're going in with the wrong mindset. I would just try to enjoy the interaction between you two and as you ease into game and talking with chicks, begin to sexually escalate slowly. The more you do that the faster you can sexually escalate with confidence. Maybe you should kiss a couple girls first and take small steps than to think about fucking them.

You're right. Lets just focus on kissing before f-closing.

I went clubbing yesterday to a 14-18 club (I know...its winter break so I'm back home...).
I couldn't bring myself to approach a girl and open to her. I did once but they all just clammed up and looked at me wide eyed. I felt pressure and I had to eject. It was terrible. I don't know what to do...especially since I went alone, I had no wingman or company for myself...

I wanted to try out the canned Night opener Gambler suggested in his videos about the cousin asking for marriage advice on whether he should marry his girlfriend or not.
The club is TOO LOUD. How do I use such a long opener?

Well, don't worry about approaching. I was never born with AA, as I approached various people since I was 4. I have only had one case of AA, but that was pressure through friends and not target. The thing I put in my head when I approach is whether or not u have something to learn from said target. It really is a "screening process" on whether or not they are worthy of you. If anything ever goes wrong, my thoughts are just "Fuck it" and challenge myself to see if I have the balls to push and fuck up until I get absolutely ejected. That's a more psychological thing for me, but I act like it's a joke for my ego purposes. I agree, opening groups are harder because of the multiplicated pressure, but I would start with a controversial opinion like ketchup or mustard, is it called cinnamon buns or rolls, and justify it with you have a bet with a friend on who has more people to agree. Make up your own, and most of the time people will argue with each other within the group, where you take your side, make your friends and tease the opposing opinion group by saying they have bad taste, etc. Say you will Give them another chance by asking them music, or other opinions. Now you are in group and know a lite about them.


As for talking and shit, although it's loud, you MAKE yourself be heard. Have a strong prescence and demand their ears. Talk at their face if you have to. Usually they will want to listen to what you say because nobody is rejected without saying anything. When they show you their ear as a gesture that they cannot hear, do you lean in and speak at them?

Remember, demand attention. They want to listen to you, so get whoever you are talking to to lean in and listen to YOU. Never lean in to other people. Motion for them to come closer. Gl!