2 nights ago, one of my best friends took me to a party. I only knew a couple of his close friends but for the most part, I was the one guy no one knew. However, almost everyone had heard stories about me, so when I met them, there eyes would light up and they'd say something like "finally I get to meet you." It's pretty sick when a friend sets you up to have high social status. I felt really confident and like I had the highest social ranking.

I met a cute blonde hb8 and started chatting. Didn't really use any canned material, but after a few minutes, her hands were all over me. This chick was like redefining the meaning of KINO. When we sat down, she'd sit on my lap or straddle me with her hands on the insides of my legs or on my chest. She got her friends to take pictures of us, her giving me a kiss on the cheek. At one point, I said, "I don't know where my phone is". So she started checking my pockets, running her hands over each before running them over my cock "just to check" lol.

Normally, when your getting signs like this, it's pretty obvious that its on. But this girl was wierd. I remember my buddy yelling to me: "GFL! Good Fucking Luck!!!" and telling me shit like she's just the biggest flirt ever but never does anything. But I could tell she was totally into me. Eventually, we locked eyes at one moment and I went in for the kiss. We kissed for like a second, hardly even constituting a make out but we did that like 4 or 5 times. Each time, she'd turn and grab me and pull me in for a kiss but just as I'm trying to get into it she'd push me away. So frustrating! Almost like she was playing cat-string theory on me!

Anyways, I felt up her tits a bit and sucked on them, so she wasn't prude or anything.

Last night, it was the same group of kids having a party, just at a different house. My buddy took me again, and we both knew that this hb8 was gonna be there so I was excited, thinking that hopefully I can escalate things to a bedroom. So basically it was the exact same situation as the night before. I walked into the party with a big smile, a lot of the people I met the night before came up and started talking to me. Everyone knew me and this hb8 hooked up which seemed to apparently be quite a feat that I pulled off. As my friend told me later that night, "like 90% of the guys here have tried at some point or wanted to hook up with her, but no one has, except you."

I started talking to the hb8 again, but made sure I didn't give her attention until about 8 minutes after I was there. I wasn't gonna try to escalate things right away. Cause soon enough, shes once again straddling on top of me and I've got my hands on her hips. I looked over and saw another hb8 smiling at me and giving me the thumbs up lol. We were attached to one another for like an hour, talking to ppl and shit, all the time shes always holding my hand or putting my arm around her etc. I was just waiting for it to be like "ok, lets go in here" and close the door and start making out.

But then it all changed. I went to the bathroom, came out and shes flirting with other guys, being all touchy-feely, but doing what she apparently always does. It seemed like what my friend told me the night before was becoming true. Instead of going back up to her and grabbing her, I started talking to other girls. I wanted to show her that I didn't care (even though I did obviously).

Shortly after, (I could see her drunkenly laughing and holding guys) she comes over and up to me and says "are you mad at me?" I said "no" and just stared at her blankly. She said "well you just walked away from me" blah blah. Kept saying dumb shit like "do you hate me?"
I just walked away, tried to freeze her out and talk to other chicks. Like another cutie right in front of her to show that I can still have a good time without her and shes not that special. At that point, it was like 'ok were clearly not gonna hook up'.

My buddy pulled me aside and said " i fucking told you man. she flirts with everyone, and its like you can just go for the makeout right now, or you can ignore her."

I chose to pay her no attention for the rest of the night. When I told my buddy we should get going, I looked over and saw her kissing her ex-boyfriend who is some wierdo that no one likes. Her best friends where grabbing me and telling me to go over and wheel her (either because they liked me and wanted to me to be with or because they didn't like the ex-boyfriend) but I was like "fuck that, why the fuck would I do that? she's just another one of those random university party girls who fucks around with guys." They told me she hadn't hooked up with anyone all semester, so I guess I was the first? By the way we go to the same university.

I think she came up to me again and looked at me and said "are you mad with me?" I again just said "no" blankly. Blah blah, then I said "what do you want?" and I can't remember after that, but clearly I wasn't impressed with her and didn't return any of her Kino advances.

At the door, everyone was leaving around the same time, so I was saying goodbye to people, being really enthusiastic like I had a great time, even though I was pissed. The hb8 was still holding her ex-boyfriend wierdo loser like she held me, cept they kept kissing briefly like little pecks. I got her friends number who was cute just incase the hb8 saw it happen. Then I said bye to everyone and I finally walked by her, looked her in the eyes and just said unenthusiasticaly, "see ya, nice meeting you" as if we had no relationship and she meant nothing. She looked over at me and almost looked sad and like she was about to say something but I walked out not giving her a chance.

I was pissed the whole way home with my friend, just cause it was so confusing and frustrating, and like I just didn't know how to deal with it. I couldn't even think of anything legit to say when I was leaving, I wanted to say some sick line that would subtext of like "I thought we were more, but clearly your just another party girl." but all I could come up with was "see ya nice meeting you".

I just dont know what I should have done, or could have done differently. Maybe I should have just at one point said: "I want to be alone with you, lets go." or something. I made the mistake of waiting too long and just assuming it would happen. Thing is, I did what no other guy could do on day1 (hook up), she told me she was adding me on facebook, told my friend she thought i was cute, wanted my phone number, etc. I thought I had the signs.

I didn't know how to handle the situation. All I knew was that I couldn't stand there pouting so I went around and talked to other people, trying to have a good time. I tried to freeze her out, give her no attention, as if to punish her for going up to other guys and shit.

I don't know what to do from here, cause she added me on facebook, but i'm planning on not accepting for like a week or something. She also texted me while I was in bed last night at 2:48 in the morning saying: Do u hateee me . I neglected to text back and still haven't. I feel like the freeze out is appropriate, but I don't really know what to do for sure. Honestly, she was a fun girl and an hb8 that I want to hook up with again, especially considering we go to university together.

Should I continue to freeze her out? And eventually tell her straight up why I was pissed? Should I text her back? I don't know what to do!

Day 1 was easy, day 2? not so much.

Thanks for reading,

Devoz.

My interpretation: She was cat stringing you along with the flirting, yes. You did really well obviously, doing something nobody else really could. However, with all the signs from her friends telling you to go after her when she was with her ex, i can almost guaruntee it (her flirting with other guys) was a shit test from her to see if you were Alpha enough to go get her back while shes with another guy. Girls are much more likely to do the "i'll flirt around to make him jealous" routine than guys are. Look at the signs man, she's clearly interested. I think you were spot on with a freeze out, you don't have time for her bullshit.

Now how to proceed from here is tricky...I'd suggest waiting till the next party you might "run into her" at, and then just picking up where you left off. The freeze out probably made her desperate so any IOIs from you shes just gonna jump on and go with.

Just my 2 cents, lemme know what you think

Yeah man, I feel like she was definitely playing push-pull. Maybe it was a shit test when she was going up to other guys, I never thought of it like that. Or, it's just her personality, because my friends did say stuff like "I told you, that's who she is, shes a weird girl" etc.

So yeah, I guess I made the decision of trying to be Alpha by talking up other girls instead of getting her back. In that situation, what do you think of this: pull her aside and just say "do you want to kiss me?" .

But I think it did disappoint her with the freeze out and made her more desperate. She texted me again this afternoon, saying "Hey i just want to say im really sorry if you were mad at me".

I still haven't responded to her texts, cause I'm keeping the freeze out. That being said, I feel like I might drop her a short text response tomorrow. Do you think something along the lines of "im not mad, just thought you were more than just another blonde *university we go to* party girl" would be appropriate?? Just so I'm not completely ending it, but keeping it short and a bit blunt?

And it's quite possible I will actually be going to another party with the same people next week and I may very well see her there. So whether or not I send that text, its possible we can pick up from where we left off. Either that, or I might see her back at school in the next month.

Thanks MiniMoose, let me know what you think of that text!

-Devoz

Ok first part, pulling her aside and the kiss line is kinda redundant, seeing as how you had already given her a few kisses throughout the night, thats more of a way to snag the first kiss from a girl.

For the text idea u were gonna send back, its spot on! Thats almost exactly what I would have reccomended saying back to her. This way, she is forced to qualify herself to you, making your value skyrocket in her eyes, and now she knows not to fuck around with you!

Seems like you're getting the knack of it. Keep me posted

if all you want is a hookup...why are you taking it so personally?



She CLEARLY interested. you already passed the shit test by not getting mad that shes all over other dudes. she wants to hook up, go do it. if you keep the freeze out, its just making you look like a crybaby who got his feelings hurt, IMO. no offense man.

Yeah AGDubz, I agree I gotta send a text back today. No use in keeping the freeze out any longer cause I made my point. Keeping the freeze out too long would be kinda pointless and over-done, and I totally understand what your saying about having feelings hurt, which isn't how I feel.

I think i'll send that text MiniMoose. My friend said it might be a lil too much of a neg but I don't think its too bad. Just by saying it tho, it might sound like I was hoping for a little bit more than a random one night stand. But I guess that is what I want lol... But yeah man, thanks for the help and advice!

That was a long post, but it was well written so that made it pleasant to read.

Ok it sounds like you should have gone for the F-close the first night. If she's on your lap it can't be that hard can it? (Well something might have been hard. Lol!) I think it might have been something to do with being only a small group of friends and them all knowing about it if you two suddenly dissappeared.

Also another tip is to never ever listen to someone when the tells you that a girl is just a flirt. I've had people tell me this and then later I hooked up with the girl. The key with these girls is to use the cat string theory.

So the second night I think your freezeout was partly effective, but it may have also made you look like you were pissed off with her. However you failed on the night because she was hooking up with her ex and that should have been you.

Ok so after all of that if she's texting you that is a good sign. You should text her back as if nothing happened. I'm not sure but maybe the text about being a party girl will make you look like you care too much. I mean it's only the second time you've met her. I would simply say no and then change the subject.

Thanks antic, felt I had to include all the details lol.
F-Close first night would have been hard, there were not that many people, and all her best friends were there... And that's a good tip, I definitely was like "Fuck that!" when people were saying I wouldn't get with her, gotta keep pursuing and not let that stuff fog up your game!

Just to have an update on the texting and stuff:

I did end up sending the text: "I wasn't (mad), just thought you were more than another blonde *college we go to* party girl"

Hb8: "I'm not, that really wasn't who i am and i feel really stupid... u seem like a cool guy, still glad i met you"

(So she qualified herself to me, plus a small IOI. You had it right MiniMoose!
I then chose to use one of the text lines from the 'List of Text Messages Game' topic.)

Me: Aw ur so sweet ur makin me get diabetes:) Haha, im sure i'll see ya in class

I felt a lil dumb sending that line but decided to experiment and try to do push pull.

Hb8: Haha class with *our teacher*, nothing better


I didn't respond because:
-There wasn't really much to keep the texting going
-I'm not gonna try to make pointless text that I think will only put me in friendzone
-I try not to send the last text of a convo, and if I said something like "Yeah can't wait", she likely would not have replied and I would have felt kinda lame.


So ya, there ya have it guys, thanks for the help!

Hopefully I'll see her in second semester, and when I do, I'll act as if nothing happened and return to the Kino and flirting. If all goes well, I'll be able to get with this Hb8 again!

-Devoz

You did good, I believe if you meet her again you will close

_________________
Cheers mate