By teaching the young guy who i work with all my skills i have unleashed a monster.

2 years ago the young 20 year old cocky, know it all hero started work at my place.
I liked him imediately, fearless like me, direct and up for it.

I will keep this brief.

After 3 months of going out with this young guy and his merry men who believed they new f..king everything.
I just watched and enjoyed not wishing to impart any skills from my part.

He soon realised when out with me and my friends we got results with women.

He then admitted he knew nothing and wanted to learn what i knew.
My friends got to know him and after about a month told me not to teach him.
They gave good reasons.

To angry, past family trauma etc.

I thought i would teach him anyway.
..............................................

Present day.

Last night.

Firstly it was a great night out for all of us except my young pua.

For the first time he was outshone, out danced,out gamed
by one of his friends.
This other guy was on fire, we owned the night and i declared him the winner.

But OHHHH NO my young pua was not going to have that.

To say i was dissapointed by what happened in the next half an hour was an understatement.

He decided to fuck everything up.

The icing on the cake being when the other young guy accussed him of being a bad looser.
The girl he liked.....liked me. (always the way or vice versa etc)
So he fucked that up. Could'nt deal with rejection.
She had something about her, (big energy or something).

He thought if he could upstage me.....................
Now all his mates think he is a c..t.

And to think of the women who want to shag him. There is a queue.
And he acts like that.

Conclusion.

I saw the worst in him last night.

So eager to win, be liked, worshipped.

I though i could offer more than just pick up.
Be a bit of a father figure as well. (he had no father ,walked out when he was a kid)
I thought i new what i was doing.

I was wrong

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

What were you teaching him exactly?

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"Despite all the giggling, blushing and talk about having a deep connection, it all ends
with a cock in her mouth." ~60 Years Of Challenge

You weren't wrong, you just taught him the wrong way mate.

I've taught maybe 5-6 PUAs "properly". There are a good deal that just aren't ready for it yet.

And people like your "young PUA" might need inner game/life lessons teachings first. Of course you can't lecture this to him, it's up to you how you can show him this through life experiences.

If you can't...then he's just. Not. Ready.

Some people never become ready.

Most PUAs don't realise the problems that come with LOTS OF SUCCESS WITH GIRLS. But, lots of success with girls SERIOUSLY FUCKS YOU IN THE BRAIN. Emotionally and physically. It's a tough game, and I don't think many people are ready for it.

R.G.

Everything is cool now.
He just went of the rails that night because he was drunk.

I do somewhat understand his point of view though.
The thought of someone in there mid thirties, ME getting the top female dog in the place fucked his head up.(I don't pull that off very often).We are talking about clubs with a 18-22 age range.
I got a bit of insight seeing it from his point of view and i suppose it would have annoyed me a bit. (if i were him) after what he said.
He also owned up to a few other things that night. little shit....

I think i have brought about and challenged his whole train of though over the years.
All guys in there early 20's will have inner game issues.
I still have inner game issues from time to time.
I think he needs to get out of his mums place.
He has got issues with his friends as he see's them as inferior now etc.
Lot of hate issues etc.

But still he is the best fanny magnet i have seen. After me HA HA.

Unlike the rocky films where they use a computer simulation in rocky balboa with him at his prime to see him win against the younger guy.

I do this week in week out.
In some tough clubs.
I practise what i preach.

My old school style of things can work wonders as nobody uses my style in his age group.
It also gives me the upper hand in there.

And as for what i have taught him.
Not that much, more of how to express it.
On the job training like how i picked it up.
Trusting you inner gut feelings etc.

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

Fancy coming to London & coming out with me sometime? I could learn something from you. Perhaps you could learn something from me.

(My personal opinion)

I think it all started wrong when all of you guys see it as a competition to shag women. I see PUA as an art a way to get the best from you and girls.

When you take PUA as a who fucks the best girl, then you are destroying everything. You become banal and empty; you start seeing girls as mere objects missing the essence of human relationships that is actually knowing someone.

I think you become a MPUA when you make love to women not just sex, and really you realize fucking HB10 isn't that great, unless you feel it.

“The most wonderful of all things in life, I believe, is the discovery of another human being with whom one's relationship has a growing depth, beauty, and joy as the years increase. This inner progressiveness of love between two human beings is a most marvelous thing;it cannot be found by looking for it or by passionately wishing for it. It is a sort of divine accident, and the most wonderful of all things in life.”

As a conclusion I don't think it was your fault or his fault; I think it was something that had to happen, a young boy yelling and screaming because he couldn't get the toy he wanted.

How do you expect him to get better as a person if he thinks success is measure by how many girls he lay?

You didn't create a monster you just created a young insecure boy that need the approval of a group of young kids that think being a man is fucking every moving girl.

For me, that isn't inner game or outer game that's just being a selfish prick.

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XFMAN

Thanks for your opinion.

Nobody is perfect on this site.
I just thought i would share some of my nights out with 22 year old guys.


Xfman said
You didn't create a monster you just created a young insecure boy that need the approval of a group of young kids that think being a man is fucking every moving girl.

For me, that isn't inner game or outer game that's just being a selfish prick.

Agreed.

And it was his friends not me who pointed this out to him.

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

Agreed, you didn't created it, sounds to me it was just a guy with anger issues who drank too much and got a bit out of control

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

You have hit the nail on the head.

ANGER.

He is eaten up with it.
This is sad as he such a great guy with huge potential.

Where did this come from.

He got involved with a girl for 4 years. Bearing in mind he is only 22 that is a long time. (it ended)
To keep it brief.
He had what i call a text book (argue based relationship).
Got himself in debt trying to be the middle class boy.(qualify to her parents)
He lives in a small place with his mum and his mates have got houses and jobs and nice cars.
He is hanging around with guys who HAVE stuff.
He has DEBT and not much else.
He will have to work for at least 2 years to pay it off.
In a job he hates.

To sum up.
Most of his friends seem on paper to have it all.
House,girlfriend,nice car, good job.


Also there is a another problem.
He has some anger towards me.

I told him not to get into debt 2 years ago.
He listened to other peoples advice at work. (people he now hates with a passion)
They are all in debt, and deliberately made sure he would be, C..TS.

He knows now if he listened to me he would'nt be in all this shit.


I am a father figure and mentor to him.
Not a do what i say guru.
More of watch and learn.

But now it is 2011

In some ways our friendship has run its course.
I don't believe he has the potential to be the man he should be.
Instead i believe he will be the man that he thinks people think he should be.

But going back to your comment.
Had i made sure he listened to me 2 years ago.........hrmm.

Who knows.

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

So what??
It's all very sad and all but tell u the truth ... everyone has problems, doesn't meen u need to jump around and yell at people, he needs to relax and realize it's not a big deal, and nvm what happens he shouldn't be an asshole

and btw, professional help (a shrink) is not such a bad idea too

But still, If it happened just once when he was drunk u shouldn't make such an issue out of it, if it happens all the time.. well as I said nothing to be ashamed of going to a shrink or something


(after edit)
..and sometimes ppl are just assholes, that can happen too

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

He's just a kid looking for a 'father figure' to shit on.

Chasing 20 year old tail is one thing but regardless of how you define it, regularly hanging out with a 20 year old kid probably says more about your history/needs than his.

Teach him the ropes a few times, then let him go find another 'father figure' to shit on.

Kasabi

Ha Ha.

I was thinking just that the other day.
What am i doing chasing 22 year olds !!

Pause for dramatic effect.

I think i like the energy of younger people at the moment.
Most of my friends are now on there second marrage that is fast going down the crapper.Negative,in debt, pissed off etc etc.

I am not in the same state of mind as them.

Unfortunately the love of my life is more in love with a higher power than me at the moment.(god)
Hence why i am currently having it large in clubs, getting down to Flo Rider.

Furthermore, you do seem to have an annoying ability to shoot close to the mark each time without hitting the gold.

Finally, i do have my reasons to hang round this group of younger people as you have clearly understood.
By having massive social proof on facebook by association helps me more now.
This was not available in my day when i was younger.

You had to go and beat someone up to get talked about.

You could say a pleasant side affect of knowing the young.

I do suscribe to the doctrine of (leaving them better than you found them).
But i will only be doing this for a few years now as i approach the big 40.

My green eyed monster will be taught a painful lesson soon.
NOT BY ME.
I can forsee one of his friends doing that to him.
(screwing the girl he likes etc).

Because the main problem young people seem to have at the moment is.
They have no true friends.
Just people they know.

Thats probably bullshit, but it seams that way.

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!

What you're describing isn't the 'energy' of the mature but rather the state of life of the unfortunate. There are plenty of 30/40 year old globe trotting guys, traveling the World and picking up the hottest 19 year models of every origin.
You believed that you had to do something stupid and outrageous to 'get talked about' and you're still trying to convince yourself that it was the reality back then. This is absolutely NOT TRUE. It doesn't matter where you grew up, there were always plenty of guys who had game and lived fast lives. They ran game and all you had was a potential fist; you obviously were not part of that group. I was not either. But hanging around with these kids won't ever bring your youth back. Furthermore, you're missing out on your reality here and now . . . These kids are not improving your game . . . they are massively holding you back.
This is NONE of your concern. Are you also worried that they forgot to take their vitamin C's and failed to put out a proper signage for their 'tree-house'? Have fun with YOUR GIG. If not, when you're in your 40's, you'll be busy hanging out with 30 year olds for a do-over.

Kasabi.

I will continue to have fun with my GIG. as you call it.

P.s. I was in the IN CROWD at school. Not the Bully.

You paint quite a picture about me.

Just to clear up a few points that you seem to have made about me.

Firstly i do have other friends, quite a few. (quess what, my age as well.)
And we do go out.

And as for my point about beating someone up or getting talked about.
Please..........
And you are disagreeing about that.......... o.k.
You were obviously not in the IN CROWD.

You seem to think i am re living my youth. I have got news for you,i am still young and in good shape.
I am 37 not 57. How old are you then ? 82
that is 2 years younger than mystery.

And as for my young green eyed monster.
Yeah i do care if he gets messed up by some women.
He is a friend.

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Its getting Hot out there.

Its all to easy.

I want to be a tree!