Okay, had a day two, first date with hb. Night went solid, great conversation etc that never really died out. The only thing is the conversation never really escalated. It was interview mode but a lot better, not boring.. If you know what I am saying.

I had a lot of teasing.. and she was laughing a lot. Were were walking a lot so kino was low.

That was a lot of the problem, the kino was very low. We did go into a bar and had a drink and sat down. I did put hand on shoulder, did a 5 second palm read (i didnt know how to palm, just acted like I did) She would hit me in the arm etc when I would neg..

No real use of push pull that I can recall. Also, I can't recall any flirting.

The day 2 ended with me driving home and talking for a minute then a hug and she left and said call or text me.


I am very new to this.. I am coming out of this date thinking it didnt go well because I feel like there was no sexual tension and that I have dropped into the friends zone..


but like I said I have no idea, this was my first day 2... Basically where am I at? Can this be salvaged? Where do go from here?

I think you are doing just fine.

Not every date is going to be super sexually charged. Something needs to be soon or you WILL be out. but it sounds like she had a good time. and to be honest, thats about all you can hope for on a date out in public.

I mean it's difficult to sexually charge an interaction that is in public. if you go too far the girl will feel super awkward. I think what you did was good, keep it playful and fun. If she had a good time she's fine and you're still in. I mean you could have always tried to KINO a bit more, or indicate sexuality a bit more, but I doubt it's a deal breaker.

My advice is get her to have another date but somewhere private. (your place or her place to watch a movie, or a quieter bar or something) because thats the best place you can turn higher levels of kino up. and next time flirt way more.

Just remember, girls rarely go on dates thinking this is fun, I want this guy to be my friend. If the date doesn't go well, she will be upset with you, not friend zone you. (Generally)

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Okay, sounds like good news.

Here is the only problem I am having right now. I leave to go out of town for like 3 weeks on Tuesday. Talk about bad timing. I need to set something up before I leave. I believe a movie at my place would work best because all of my room mates are gone.

I would like to get something going before I leave so that while I am gone we could shoot a couple texts/phone calls back and forth and keep a connection so that when I come back the connection is still there.


Since I have a serious time constraint, how soon should I contact her? (even though contacting too soon comes off as needy)

You're right that contacting too soon is needy, but don't mention that you're going out of town when you set up the date. To you, she should be just another HB that you can spend time with and if it doesn't work out with her, you can pick up someone else. That should be at least the vibe she is picking up from, but in a very playful way.

However, mention that you're going out of town while on the date, and don't make it a huge thing, like, "I really like you and I need to seal the deal NOW!" That will scare her off. In the middle of a conversation, let's say your talking about each other's future, casually throw it in like, "since you're so cute, I'll have to update you with how blah is going while I'm away for the next two weeks."

Just make sure that you two enjoy your time together and after you have mentioned you are leaving and you get into a normal conversation, tease her about the things you will do with her when you get back. This will create anticipation.

I tried to create a specific example, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment. Good luck

ha good advice. I will try to contact Sunday (2 full days after date) and see if would want to come over for a movie or something that same night. Kinda short notice but, whatever. I believe that's enough time after the day 2 to contact without sounding too needy. We were talking about how she was such a chicken and she said she gets scared easily in horror movies.. perfect right, scary movie it is...

Side note, I already told her I was going outta town (home) in a short time. This is because we come from the same place. When it came up in convo, i was like "yeah im actually going home to visit... blah blah"