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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:26 pm 
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I met this HB at the gym a few months ago. She was doing some tricep exercise which she was doing wrong. I came up to her and told her she was doing it wrong and showed her how it was done. I just got a name exchange and left. I didn't want to take it farther. By far the hottest chick in the gym. Long, straight, blonde hair, caramel skin and blue eyes. She's got a skinny hour glass figure. Always looking straight in front of her and didn't give a shit to anybody. But this was wrong. She's actually a great person with a good personality. Don't be fooled by looks!

I ran into her yesterday at an ice skating rink. I try to # close. It didn't go down as expected...Here's the story.

As I enter the rink, I open her...
"hey, you look familiar. You go to the gym."
She said...
"ya ya, I noticed you skating earlier and thought you look familiar too."

I open her female friend and ask how they notice each other...
We make more small talk the whole time i held her hand. I find out she lives a street over and works at home as a translator. I ask how come she hasn't been at the gym. We make a few rounds around the ice skate rink and rapport was made really quickly.
I DHV with the best-friend routine.
We took a picture together...her hand was near my ass and I neg her...
"hey easy now, watch your hand, we just met"

Now, the whole time this was going down, I was with friends who were inside, eating, some skating. I neg this HB but often times, she would have a confused look. I'd explain but it didn't have the same effect.

After a few rounds around, I tell her I gotta back to my friends. I did this a few times. She saw me holding hands with these chicks as well and asks how I know them. IOI. I come back after awhile but honestly, after coming back, I didn't really know how to initiate again or better yet, carry the conversation. It was forced and I think she caught on. Shit, she most likely smelled it.


Anyways, I knew I didn't really establish a high enough value but I didn't want to let this moment slip away. I didn't want to look back and say shit...I shoulda done this and that. She was leaving and so was I...I follow her...(mistake)

Her friend was in front of her...I was behind HB... behind her, I say
"hey what's the best way to contact you."
She asks if i have face book and i say no. I tell her give me your #.
She thinks about it for a few seconds and says...
"I don't think that's a good idea."
I say... "Why?"
she says.... "I'll just see you at the gym."
I laugh... and say "allright"

I know I should have made a c&f comment or something, but I wasn't prepared.

Summary
I made good kino. But perhaps I didn't DHV. I think that's the reason why I didn't # close. Honestly, I wasn't thinking like a PUA. In terms of routines and shit, I wasn't thinking straight and was just in the moment. This could be good cause sometimes I over think when I do.

What's your thoughts?

EDIT:
I also performed a cold reading. I told her how I can see she's got more going than looks.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:43 pm 
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Few thoughts-

If she had a confused look when you negged her, maybe you just didn't do it properly. If you're going for c&f, you need to have enough c&f. Too much c or too much f negates what you're trying to do. Also, if you try to explain why it's a neg to her, don't bother. You want to make it seem like you could care less if she gets it or not.

A few times you said you had to go...just do it once and that's it. If you said it a couple times and kept sticking around after that, she thinks she has you.

If you don't know how to keep going or think you should leave, just leave (I need to heed this advise myself). If you hang around just to be with her, she assumes all power and yours is gone.

I would have also left halfway through all the fun. You're going to see her at the gym anyways, so "give her the gift of missing you". It's not like you would never have seen her again.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:19 am 
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Brawndo has got it right here, you shouldnt have to explain a neg if done properly plus you shouldnt have to tell her your leaving more than once :lol:
Anyway your still going to see her at the gym.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:49 am 
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You guys are DEFINITELY right. Before you go out, you know these things. But when you're presented with such a beauty in front of you, you tend to lose all senses... lol.

I may have been hypnotized and put in a spell. But honestly, I knew I was breaking rules. I stayed too long and should have cut short after we took pics. I admit I gave her too much of my attention. Looking back to it, I see that it could have gone way better. She may look intimidating, but she's very approachable.

Now if I see her at the gym, how should I approach things? ignore? initiate a convo?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:11 am 
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Yea that's the hard part, especially when you start out. You're chatting with a hot chick that's interested in you and you know you have to leave but don't know how. Just take away her hotness and pretend that she's a 3, not an HB9 or whatever.
I would just say hi if you see her, but don't go across the gym or out of your way to say hi to her. Be casual, talk for a few secs and make it seem like you need to get back to your workout. Ask her what she's doing for her workout today, then halfway through her explanation cut her off and tell her you gotta get back to your workout before you lose your pump.


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I agree.
It's hard to be discipline yourself and leave when a conversation is going well. I felt that but ignored the rule and paid the price. I didn't give her the gift of me missing. I should have initiated my 3 chick friends and showed HB Russian that my reality is better.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:15 am 
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That would be beneficial to you. You approached her because she was a 9. If you had handled it like she was a 3, teased her, played hard to get, that would've been the way to go.
Then again, I've found myself say that a lot lately about my own experiences.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:36 pm 
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Exactly. We get blinded by the looks factor that we forget the rules of the game. It's funny because we prepare ourselves for these kind of situations (go on the forum, etc.) but forget to apply what we learn. At least for me!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:16 am 
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When you see her, greet her with first syllable of her name+itch-ka. Its how her russian boyfriend or parents might call her and will surprise her. Just say you know from some old russian friends you have.

For example:
yuliana = yulichka

tatiana = tatichka


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To DeepCover...Ti ruski?

I actually DO know this! I hang out with Russians. My Ex was Ruski, actually. Well Moldovan so totally not the same. Nevermind. When I run into her at the gym or somethin, I'll tell her.

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To DeepCover...Ti ruski?

I actually DO know this! I hang out with Russians. My Ex was Ruski, actually. Well Moldovan so totally not the same. Nevermind. When I run into her at the gym or somethin, I'll tell her.
My ex...hence why I'm here :P


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