Alright so I'm at a bar with some friends and 3 HBs (ranging from HB 5 - 7.5) walk by where we are standing. I decide to open and my wing is supposed to come in after I establish some ground work.

Here's the play by play:

Me: Hey guys, I need an opinion on my cousin,, He's a 21 yr old college student dating a 35 yr old woman. Do you think that is too old for him. (*this is all truthful by the way so I somewhat interested in their response*).

Set: Girl (*who becomes target*) standing on my left meets my eyes and says "I thinks thats way too old and she wouldn't date anyone over 4-7 yrs older than her . " The other two girls were hugging each other but they quickly said it wasn't normal.

Me: Yea, thats what me and my bros thought too. I gotta get back to em in a second btw. He's a college age kid so he should be enjoying college age women for the most part, right?. Anyway whats with these two (*pointing to the HBs hugging and still not paying to much attention*) are they involved or something?

Target: Oh they haven't seen each other in a while.

(*wing enters and I make introductions, the two other girls finally start to at least look our direction, they are to the right of the wing and we are all in a circle)

Me: Well you guys seem like good friends, How do you know each other?

Target: (*she's really the only one that hears and responds, it was loud*) Im from such and such town thats where shes from, I dont know her other friend.

Me: Gotcha, (*I forget why but she volunteered being catholic and going to catholic school*) where did you go to school?

Target: I went to Cath HS1 and they went to a local public school.

Me: Me and him went there too, what year did you graduate?(*Me and the wing went to the same Cath HS1 so we figure its on to some degree*)

We then proceeded to to banter back and forth for a bit about high school, who we knew and other random stuff. Meanwhile a guy who clearly knows them comes up and starts talking to the other HBs (they werent involved in the convo rlly).

Target: alright well I have to say hi to my friends in the back but we it was nice meeting you.

Me: I smile and say have a nice nite

So thats basically what happened, I figure we didn't engage to other HBs enough and the entrance of that dude who they knew didnt help. The target maintained good eye contact and seemed to be interested in the opener and talking about high school bs.

I was just going for the number close so what do you guys think I couldve done differently.

Thanks for the input

So from the looks of your report things got a bit boring after the conversation moved from your opinion opener to talking about your high school. This is in effect a transition but the way I see it you should have progressed with things differently. For instance, when you discovered that you both went to the same high school that was a great opportunity to do some playful teasing. This is always fun early on and gets her to invest in you more than just having the same high school in common.

"omg! Laurie Fisher?!? (pick someone you remember from high school as not being particularly attractive that may have asked you to prom or something at one point) I can't believe how you've changed so much! I wanna apologize right now for standing you up the night of the winter ball but you gotta understand when you wrote me an anonymous invitation written entirely in stencil.... i wasn't real comfortable picking you up at the Dairy Queen at noon. Maybe you should have rethought your approach on that haha"

This is something I like to do, just being playful and silly. When you start saying something like this she is usually laughing and as long as you're being playful she might even start to play along (nice if this happens).

Basically I think you just dopped the momentum from the opener and fell into the boring fluff talk. As for the other two huggers, maybe a playful neg like "are you two rolling on E right now "wink"? But that's just kinda my personality I love teasing and giving people shit lol.

Hope this is helpful man

McClean,

Yea I get all your points. I was pretty detailed with that FR and just reading it back to myself I could see that it was quite boring. Next time I'll def try some playful negs esp if we have something like going to the same HS in common. The fact that my wing came in and didnt say much other than intros also didn't help so I'll fix that as well.

Thanks for the input

Anyone else feel free to add your feedback

J. Jericho

sounds like you were running the most stereotypical mystery method you can possibly do which means it was boring, 100% canned and had no depth or value to it. you dont need depth or value when flirting but your gonna want it when you run out of opinion questions and can't find any excuses to neg.

try being you next time and jsut say whatever the fuck comes out but just say it like your sure of yourself and act like girls always love when you are your confidant self assured self.

oh and one more thing

AWESOME pickup name with the robert downey throwback.

underrated movie... he's got some good stuff in it