Ok, I'm great at creating attraction and can pull some lays but, when it comes to actually connecting with a girl on an emotional level I feel like it just doesn't happen. Like I am just incapable of really connecting with someone. So nothing ever lasts longer than a month or so. Not that I particularly care about the girls all that much I just think that it's the fact that I fail over and over again that just gets me down.

Anyone else have this problem? Is it PUA that does it to you?

Going through a meltdown here lol

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read the thread, have you applied it before?
Try it!

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Hey thanks for the link. It was a good thread but, i'm not sure that applies to me. I mean I don't really have any sad stories, i'm pretty much a happy guy. Every conversation I have with a girl, all my stories go like this: "So, we're drunk on the Alabama/Florida State line and we throw this fish across, and I almost hit a lady carrying a baby" (true story) It just seems like nothing I ever say has any substance, they're great stories and funny but definitely not deep. I'm beginning to think I'm just a shallow jerk...

dig deeper to search for your self bro, sometimes I do find myself shallow but thats just human nature. maybe a secret no one knows about you... make her feel special like shes the only one who knows something no one else does

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Hey there, I think you have the right idea on stories but just the wrong delivery. For example, your story could have gone like this: "So we were getting drunk on the Alabama/Florida State line. You know what it feels like to be sloppy drunk but not quite shit faced, that's where I was at. Anyway, I threw this fish across the water and it almost hit a Mom carrying her child. I probably startled the poor lady more than I scared her. You know what it feels like when suddenly a fish comes flying at you, her expression made me laugh even though it wasn't really funny. You know that feeling when you are trying to hold back a laugh when you know it is inappropriate to laugh? That's what I felt like then."

Just associate your stories with the feeling you had at the time and she will relate to you and probably tell you stories of her own. Good luck!

Thats great advice from highgrade, if you convey emotion and passion in what you say then you become an interesting and deeper person. Charisma is a trait that is so rare, charismatic means to be "touched by the finger of god" (random fact of the day), i.e. you command the attention of all those you interact with, it means people hang on every single syllable you utter, and therefore u interact on a deeper level.

peace, artful

Anyone can become charismatic and anyone can be become more deep. Just find something your passionate about, start reading about world topics, watching news. Get a real feel on some important stuff.

Fun-meaningless stories like that fish one are great. But theres a time and a place for everything.

Practise makes perfect!.

Not that I particularly care about the girls

Sounds like that may be the hurdle. If you are not into her, or care...you can't connect.

Did one of these girls tell you that you're shallow?

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Sinful, haha yeah a girl told me once "you're about as deep as a puddle" Although I know that this girl doesn't care how deep I am (We just have fun and fuck with no strings). I eventually want some sort of connection with somebody. I'm just not sure how to go about doing that, or if i'm even capable of it.

I figured as much...that sounds like a 'chick comment. She might have started having feelings for you if she made that comment, just a thought.

Fun and f*ck? That sounds like a great setup, have fun while you can.

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You're not supposed to connect deeply with EVERYONE. If you can't connect with someone and you're trying to, you're going against gravity. Why would you want a fake, forced connection with someone? Do you really need that with someone right off the bat?

Maybe it's better that you don't get deep right away. Everyone's shallow on the surface. People who hate that others don't understand "who they really are" and "judge them for the surface" don't realize that when you meet people ALL YOU HAVE IS SURFACE! Overdisclosure is not attractive. Generally, things that are not attractive are not socially or psychologically healthy for us to begin with.

Everyone is shallow. If you wanted an ugly girl who's got a great personality you wouldn't be here. You are not going to connect with a girl JUST because she's hot. Realize that hot girls are just...like every other girl, only they're hot. Treat them like any other girl, and treat every girl like any other person, and control how they treat you. Do this and you just might find a hot one that you like.

If there was deep water with a mucky surface you'd still never dive in.

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