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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:44 am 
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The following is my list of the possible places you could go to meet girls.

1. club (dancing/drinking)
2. bar (drinking/chilling)
3. pub (drinking/chilling)
4. city (busy streets/main attractions)
5. shopping mauls (popular busy one)
6. beech (city beach/crowed ones)
7. School/college/university (lunch breaks/in class)
8. House party's (birthdays/new years etc)
9. Internet (dating sites/Facebook)
10. Functions (weddings/ dinners/ reunions)

So i made this topic so you guys can rank from 1 to 10, with 1 being the most effective and efficient place to meet a girl.

my ranking.

1. The club
2. The bar
3. House party
4. College/school/university
5. the pub
6. functions
7. the beech
8. city
9. shopping mauls
10. internet

Wat do you guys think? :)

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My list is this;

1. Anywhere, any time.
2. Nightclubs

That means nightclubs are shit, as far as I'm concerned. That's just me though.


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That means nightclubs are shit, as far as I'm concerned. That's just me though.
where else can u get 100 young girls, all trying to look their best and looking to meet new guys? hmm please holla at me if u know of some place i dont.

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The problem - 100 young girls expecting to get hit on and ready for a night of avoiding guys and pretending they hate all these guys hitting on them. Fuck that.

One time when I was out clubbing, I was trying to meet someone at a club, and didn't know where it was. So I turned to the 3 girls next to me and asked "Hey do you guys know..." and before I got to "guys" they looked at me and started gravitating away, like "omg some guy is hitting on us, let's get out of here!" and I was almost stunned, and I continued the sentence, with a hint of confusion "...know where X bar is?..." and while I finished the sentence I made sure I was rooted to the spot, froze my body language, gave them no indication that I was interested in pursuing them, to the point that they could have just kept walking and leave me mid-sentence, if they really were that much of a bunch of bitches. Once they noticed this, they actually stopped moving and gave me an honest answer. I clarified it, and then headed in that direction saying "thanks guys" without looking back. One of them said "You're alright, no worries." like she felt sorry for backing off from a guy who was genuinely asking for directions.

Why would I put up with that shit?

Admittedly, two times in the very rare times I've been out clubbing in the last six months, I've been actually approached by a girl (and was too stupid/busy to make use of it) and that's all well and good, but...

think about it - if I was at a large shopping center, and approached some girls with directions, do you think they'd automatically gravitate away from me? No.


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The problem - 100 young girls expecting to get hit on and ready for a night of avoiding guys and pretending they hate all these guys hitting on them. Fuck that.

think about it - if I was at a large shopping center, and approached some girls with directions, do you think they'd automatically gravitate away from me? No.
EXACTLY.

Why spend £50-100 on entry, drinks, cabs, etc. and have to sort out guestlist, logistics, meeting friends, etc. just so you can go up to a few sets and ask them who lies more whilst pretending to not notice how ridiculously hot they are?

Why not walk up to a girl you like on the street and tell her she's cute and you want to get to know her? It's HONEST, ATTRACTIVE, CONFIDENT, and it costs you NOTHING.

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HAHA that actually makes me laugh. first of all approaching a girl in the shopping centre asking for directions hmm. ok soo let me guess. u dress up, go to the shops, find a hot girl, and thats ur approach?

when u write the way u do, u make chicks sound like little devils just waiting to drown u in ur own pity. dude girls go out to meet guys. if u havent learnt that by now then u needa get ur head around it.

soo once u ask for directions then what? u tell her shes cute? u tell her u wanna grab a drink with her sometime, u get her number?

trade that for approaching a chick, flirting with her in a club where its 100% acceptable to flirt with a girl, touch her, rub her, kiss her, make out with her, dance with her, and then get her phone number?

im telling u this because i think u should go out more man. 2 times in 6 months just because a bunch of chicks ignored you? i wouldnt be writing this to screw u over bud im just tryna tell u what defs works best for me. :)

give it another try

and as for spending money. u should never spend any money on chicks. thats the first rule in club game. and most clubs are free entry or like 5/10 buks soo it really aint that much

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1. I wouldn't knock direct day game until you've actually tried it mate. Think about it this way - at a club, you can indirectly approach a number of sets and spend a good 20-30 minutes in them, before you find out they've got boyfriends or are leaving or their friends come and drag them away or any number of other annoyances. Also, going indirect means most guys end up not signalling their actual interest until much later on in the interaction, by which point she's either lost interest or shows she was never interested in the first place and was just in the process of friendzoning you.

Furthermore, at night girls are expecting to be hit on and thus their guard is up. Even if you're good at "disarming the bitch shield" and "navigating shit tests" WHY BOTHER? When you approach a girl during the day, her guard is down. You get to HER straight away, in 30 seconds, and can have a normal fucking conversation instead of ploughing for ages and "negging her to lower her value."

2. Chicks ARE dirty little devils that just can't wait to get drowned in cum ;-)

3. "soo once u ask for directions then what? u tell her shes cute? u tell her u wanna grab a drink with her sometime, u get her number?"

Not exactly, I approach and straight away tell her she's cute. Then I find out immediately what she's up to, and within a minute, if she's willing to continue the interaction, know whether she's interested in a sexual relationship with me. If not, I wasted 1-2 minutes of my time and can move on. You simply cannot do that in indirect club game. If she is interested, then we continue through qualification and comfort, talk about a day 2, and then get the number just in case we need to change plans. The whole thing can be 5-10 minutes MAX. That's just plain efficiency. While you're out and about shopping on the weekend you can set up an entire week of dates for fucks sake!

4. "trade that for approaching a chick, flirting with her in a club where its 100% acceptable to flirt with a girl, touch her, rub her, kiss her, make out with her, dance with her, and then get her phone number?"

First off, it's 100% acceptable to talk to people in general! There's nothing "unacceptable" about walking up to a girl on the street and introducing yourself! Second, how's your flake rate for girls you make out with on the dancefloor and then number close but don't do the ONS / SNL with? If your club game is good, then yes, you can dance around and have a great time with your friends, and then take a girl straight home, which is great (I do it!). However, I prefer the simplicity of arranging dates on weekday evenings, on my terms, just the two of us. No cockblocks, no having to shout over loud music, no AMOGs, no nothing. Just two people getting to know each other a bit and then fucking.

5. "and as for spending money. u should never spend any money on chicks. thats the first rule in club game. and most clubs are free entry or like 5/10 buks soo it really aint that much."

Clubs with hot girls in London cost a lot more than that, and nobody's advocating buying a girl a drink as an opener, but it's miserly to not buy them anything at all ever, plus you'll want a few for yourself and your friends, plus cab fares, etc. etc. All daygame approaches are FREE, and a date is just a bite to eat and maybe a drink, £10 at most for me, and then a free walk back to mine. Done ;-)

It's odd to me that you asked people to rank their order, and then when somebody takes an opposing point of view, you are incredibly condescending towards them, when I doubt you've actually seriously gone out and actually TRIED IT!

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first of all im not knocking direct day game at all. i look up to you if ur able to walk to beautiful girls on the street directly. but wat ur saying kinda doesnt make sense as in why would u go indirect in a club? if u already have the balls to go direct anyways. going direct in a club is far more acceptable, i mean girls will almost expect to get hit on, and i dont know why thats a bad thing because u get to work on ur game for free. u can spend 6 hours 10-4, on a satarday night, working on ur game. where else can u get that sorta experience?

and by direct i dont mean hi ur cute i wanted to say hi!, i mean just walking over and saying he wats up and start chatting away, thats pretty much direct, i mean the girl will know u like her etc.

and wats this stuff about signalling interest? dude if u go up to a chick and say hi, that girl knows u like her, u dont need to signal interest or anything. just flirt with the girl, make her laugh tease her and bammm.

and okay now for ur 2nd point, im going to say something that might make alot of people disagree, but girls go out to meet and talk to guys, and they know they will get hit on alot, so yes they will have this shield up, but if u approach a girl in a confident calm cool smooth way then that shiel drops almost instantly. the girl goes out expecting to talk to guys, expecting to flirt, she wants to be chat up, she wants to be seduced. its the one place where u have hundreds of girls, all eager to be seduced.

during the day they have things to do, but yes if ur direct and smooth then sure she'll give u her phone number. but its alot less fun, because u cant touch her as easily, u cant flirt with her as easily. its all alot slower during the day and the girl isnt ready for it.
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Then I find out immediately what she's up to, and within a minute, if she's willing to continue the interaction, know whether she's interested in a sexual relationship with me. If not, I wasted 1-2 minutes of my time and can move on. You simply cannot do that in indirect club game.
YES U CAN. u can exactly do this in a club. except in a club when u dont get the responses u want. u walk 4 metres to your left and HAAABAMM another gorgeous chick.
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Second, how's your flake rate for girls you make out with on the dancefloor and then number close but don't do the ONS / SNL with?
i have no idea what that means im not familiar with this pick up slang etc

And as for spending money, your spending money for urself anyways not the girl.

and i just wanted to see what people thought but u came straight out and said how horrid clubs are, and obviously since i think its the best place, im gona give my thoughts.

just another idea, ud be suprised how many girls, just how many girls at the club, stand around waiting, JUST WAITING, for a guy to appraoch them.

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Well through this discussion people are revealing the merits of both, I think it's been good.

Blondeguy was talking about how reliable girls are in general if you picked them up at a club. I'm heavily siding with blondeguy in all this, but I agree I should give night time more of a go, just so I can better compare the two. I don't have high hopes though - all my success has been in the day.

If you're talking about looking for hot girls - just look around next time you go shopping at a large shopping center, sheesh :) plus you will find ALL kinds there - this is IMPORTANT. EVERYONE needs to go to the shops, but only certain people hang out at clubs all the time.

Obviously we are all speaking from experience here, & you seem to have a good time at night - I'm willing to try night time more and find girls waiting to be hit on. I'd like to properly compare how night compares to day in terms of difficulty, types of person, the way you approach it, etc.


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If you're talking about looking for hot girls - just look around next time you go shopping at a large shopping center, sheesh plus you will find ALL kinds there - this is IMPORTANT. EVERYONE needs to go to the shops, but only certain people hang out at clubs all the time.
:) if your looking for hot girls. theres probly about 10 times more stunning chicks inside a club then ull find in an area of a shopping centre. you see you'll end up walking around looking for a gorgeous girl whose alone and try engage her. but in a club u can do this 100 times in 5 hours and if u stuff up or dont get the result u want, the chick wont even remember and neither will you.

i guess a good argument for day game is that alot of the girls u meet will be girlfriend material. whereas in a club, alot of girls will be loud, drunk, partying, chatting to all sorts guys and that might put off your approach. but then agen it depends on whether ur looking for a girlfriend, or just looking to meet as many gorgeous chicks as u can

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Heh the most recent girl I met day game is NOT looking for a relationship, just wants to have "fun" :) like I said, you meet ALL types, I'm telling you.

And they are all around as well.

I was just out clubbing for a friend's birthday party tonight (just got back) and I only saw a small number the whole night that I would approach, (wasn't out for long I guess) roughly the same amount in the same amount of time if I was out at the shopping center. One I did decide to approach for the heck of it, was smoking, she had a boyfriend though. He was cool - showed up briefly to let me know he was there and darted away again. Was a fun night but yeah, numbers weren't any different imo.


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hmm maybe coz were from different places. I live in Australia. the clubs here are always packed. we only have about 7-8 really good clubs that are popular in this city and these normally have around 100-300 girls.

soo she was the only girl u approached tonight?

see if ur looking for results then i guess day game is better. but im just looking for in game experience. i go clubbing coz i get to spend a solid 6 hours, chatting to gorgeous girls. i for sure get rejected or ignored alot more than those of you day gaming. but i also gain soo much experience, that talking to a stunning chick that would make most guys freeze, its like 2nd nature to me. it alows me to stay calm and confident, and the girl can really feel that.

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it all depends on what type of girl you're looking for....for example, if you want a good chance to meet an intelligent girl, go to a large bookstore or library....but yea, clubs are def the most copious if youre not picky.....

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I'm in Australia too :)


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Come on naughty. Is there something that spooks you about daygame?
You can get a tonne of experience from daygame, from just doing bulk approaches. Not really different to the 10-4am clubgame.

Think about it this way, you have nothing to lose by going daygame. So what if people see you or you crash and burn. At the very least by going direct you have made the HB's day, probably even made her blush.

Whats the worst that can happen in a club? Drinks to the face, slaps, screaming, assault? haha.

Both have their pro's and cons. But for sheer efficiency, day/street game = no.1

Clubgame to me, is more about socialising. Getting a HB, is just a bi-product of that...but hey, thats just me.


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