I dont know if this is the best place to post this up. But i will go for it.

Hello to all, i write this post because i started to have suicidal thoughts again. First i would like to share with you my previous day experience... I went to a club because we had this big party organized from some people from my university. So, for one more time, i went there with a good and happy attitude to have some fun and the possibility of meeting some girls.
End of the story i was rejected by mostly all of the girls i tried to talk to.

And those who didn't reject me immediately simply acted a little ignorant. So around 3 or 4 I was tired and a little drunk and i was sitting on a chair alone watching people having fun, laughing, kissing, dancing so i couldn't stand it anymore and i left. I walked 5 kilometers to my house. The weather was -3 Celsius and everything was cover with snow and ice. I was thinking suicide all this time and i was crying/ feeling angry and frustrated.
I cried myself to sleep and i slept for 16 hours. Basically i was sleeping and waking up for some hour and then sleeping again because i still felt bad and somehow tired.

And here i am now writing this message assuming that someone can give me some advice.
But the weirdest thing for me is my background.

If you are still reading this then thank you for your time, please take 2 more minutes to let me finish.

I am a computer geek/nerd. I have always been my entire life. Now i am 23 years old and i feel addicted to my computer. I don't feel like it is helping me anymore. I had a lot of addiction in my life. I was smoking for 6 years until i took the decision to quit and locked my self in the house for a week and i quit smoking! I was also smoking weed/skunk for 3 years. The thing is that i was smoking a lot, maybe 20 joints a day with "friends" always. I also quit smoking weed.
I was getting drunk with Vodka and Tequila when i was 15 and throwing up twice a week. Now i rarely drink a alcohol. Maybe when i go to a big party, like this mentioned before i will drink 5-6 beers.

I continuously try to improve my life. From my point of view, I am clever, smart, cute, great-looking, creative, positive with great humor guy. I worked out the 5 years really hard so i also have a great body. I have lots of achievements in life so people tell me all the time "wow you are really smart and clever and Congratulations" but the truth is i have no friends. Maybe one or two that i don't really know if they care or just hang out with me. I also cant get girls. I don't know what are they attracted in any more. I am reading tons of pickup material from when i was 16. I am not the kind of people that are whining about life is not fair, i know it is not fair but i try really hard to make things work. And i simple cant get it.
Now i am at a point where i masturbate more than 7 times a week and i spent 80/90% of my time alone on a laptop. The bad thing is that i cant even work now because i feel like this. So i sit and watch cartoons like family guy and Simpson's trying to make myself laugh. While other important project are pushed back. At the moment i wright this i see my room in a very bad situation with all garbage around me and i really don't care of cleaning it because i am lack of basic needs, Like social interaction, friends, love and sex. I shall stop now. I have plenty more things to say. But i guess you get the point.

I don't want to give up trying, i am not that kind of person. I just don't know what to do anymore to get these kind of things.
You can tell me to work on a computer-related project and i will figure it out, i don't care how much time it will take me, but i will find out. But when it comes to society, people and females i just have no idea what to do anymore.
If you can find anything that relates to you, please stop by and say hello or something.

Anonymous

Whatever you do man, do not try to commit suicide. Every time you get those thoughts in your head I want you to think of your family, how would they feel if you committed suicide. Call a suicide hotline, talk to a therapist, psychologist, anyone. You mentioned that you're good with computers and that you are clever, think about what you could contribute to the world in the future. Some people are just more introverted than others. DO NOT attempt suicide.

Okay, first thing is your smart and have lots of achievements, have a great body and have quite a character since you stopped quite a lot of addictions and are willing not to give up. This is attractive, but maybe you still dont know how to display attraction. Crying yourself to sleep for 16 hours wont do it.
These suicidal thoughts come from you putting yourself down every time you look at your life and your failures, so instead of looking at your ''boring and lack of feminine pussy life'', look at what you can do to make it ''an amazing and full of vaginal sex life'', and then do it . When you fail take it as a lesson of what not to do, smile and continue experimenting. Instead of sitting on the computer 80% of the time, sit on it 20% of the time, and do something creative, fun, social and productive 80% of the time, eg juggling, drawing, going out and meeting friends and people, MEDITATING [meditation is truly amazing. Removing negative thoughts, clearing your mind and identifying yourself, will lead to a greater life, greater social life so start reading about it now] and etc etc etc etc etc.
You have been reading PUA stuff for 7 years, and not getting any woman? This means you are maybe not trying to get women. Reading about something will not make you good at it, going out and doing it with your own motivation and practice will make you good at it. One who tries to get women for 7 years and tries to understand what attracts them, will become a PUA without reading any material.
Forget about your lack off success in the past, its history and nothing can change it [unless you build a goddamn time machine]. Its never too late to start a new beginning and continuosly improving your self/character and your social life. Go out and socialize, meet new friends, meet new ladies, fuck new ladies [no raping if you fail, ofcourse].
Get rid of your suicidal thoughts. If you feel depressed, feel it, those emotions want to be felt and will be gone soon enough, since you cant just turn a switch on and be happy.

Good luck, and dont kurt cobain yourself

before i write what i want my reply to be, i want you to watch these two videos.

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg3yu9_K8sk[/youtube]


so honestly i have felt like that all my life. i'm 24yr, 25 in march. i'm a nerd/geek as well and look cute. i have discovered PUA 2 weeks ago. and now ever since then i have been feeling better than ever. today is my first day registered on t he forums and been reading the general and im not reading any tips anything to help me, just answering peoples problems which will come to an end soon.

what i believe you need is loads of materials. go on youtube, search adam lyons , he has a lot of videos posted, now while ur searching for him look for other videos of other PUA's and go look through there video

point being is, i feel a lot more confident ever since and i have been talking more with my coworkers who i test some stuff on. but i dont want to just go out there just yet, i want to go LOCK AND LOADED. i want to collect all the materials i possibly can. that is my goal. by march when it gets a bit warmer i expect to know 100x from what i know now. i do not have any text. i have collections of videos and i have seperated them in folders like direct game, indirect, kino, opening, approaching, all this stuff and i think you should do the same. once you have a collection of ALL THE KEYS you need to win any girl. you will feel like GOD. therefore going up to any girl, if rejected well hey there is another girl.

THE THING ABOUT MEETING GIRLS AT CLUBS IS......... i attend more clubs than anyone on this forum or anyone you know. it is not easy to pickup girls because first most girls are with friends and you have to really understand a lot of club concept behind girls @ clubs. i have yet to approach any girl @ a club because i dont have enough information. i have experienced eeverything you had in the club scene. but i feel more positive to know that all of this will soon come to an end. i believe that you need to know more information. you might think you know enough but how about you ask a professional member on here to test your skills to see what you really know.

as for i dont get PUSSY AT ALL and sadly i use porn as an alternative but my mindset right now for past 2 weeks has changed ever since i have discovered PUA.

MAKE MY GOAL YOUR GOAL = when i be 27-29 years old. i want to feel high value and make it my rule if i go out to a club i will bring 10 hot girls with me, also have friends who are also learning PUA and make them do the same, 3 friends + me = 4 males x 10 girls = 40 hot model girls.

LATELY i have been debating "WHAT IF"
i find a girl of my dreams n fall in love simply because of the lack of relationship, sex, love. -VERSUS- having 20 be-friend girl's. and using seduction & kino to get laid from them. How about i have 20 girls as friends, and fuck all of them and find out which one has the HOTTEST and Warmest Vagina out of the 20 hot girls. once i find that out, then i go out with that girl.

Meeting girls in clubs is very hard and if in 3-4 yrs from now i'm as PRO as a PUA Trainer, i wont even bother going to clubs. the girls @ clubs are the girls who exp'd all this game shit #1, #2 these girls go to clubs all the time, they know how they want their night to go.

ANSWER = meet the day time girls, those are the girls who don't go out clubbing for the many insecure reasons. then you go clubbing with some new faces looking fresh n hot, then you'll know WHOS BOSS.

this is my goal/mindset/dream that i want to achieve, for now i'm a NERD who ever had a hot gf. but this doesnt bring me down because i know that when i FEEL ready to hit the streets and start picking up girls then it light up the spark in my life. for now i feel im better off waiting till i pay off my cards so i can have money to hangout with girls. + i have to learn everything that a PUA knows from beginner - advance without actually practicing but i still have my friends, friend, pretty girls at work who i dont have to use openings/approach. so yeah.

build a collection of videos and watch them on a daily basis and find out more videos. collect like 700 videos, organized by category, by this time you will be a god and if it takes 8 months to do this then you will be confident as every day goes by in your journey because this is how i feel. i feel very happy to learn all the information that i'm learning..

Hey man sorry about your down mood I get where youre coming from. I hope things work out better for you in the future. I re-watched fight club a couple weeks ago and it pretty much changed my life. I suggest you watch it a couple times and think about the message and whatnot. Regardless of however things turn out, we're here for you man. Peace

-BB

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Blue Blazer

This is the right place to post questions about pick up and social skills. This is the wrong place to post crap about suicide.

An "addictive personality" on its own isn't necessarily a bad thing. You start something and you have a tendency to repeat it over and over again. If you didn't have this trait, you couldn't possibly sit in front of your computer all day and write pages upon pages of code. I have a suspicion that if you could find a "way in" to the World of pick up, you'd be pretty good at it. It takes a bit of tenacity. . .

But I am not going to type up any sort of advice unless you re-write your post and yank that suicide crap out of here. Regardless of whether it's true or not, you're using this piece as leverage to pull others' emotions into helping you. If you really stood there with a gun to your head, I'd do what I can to knock it out of your hand but I'm not going to stand there and offer you pick up routines.

If this is really about suicide, then seek resources that pertain to the subject.

If this is really about improving your social life, re-write this post. I'll be sure to follow through.

Hey man, think of rejection this way, it is their lose, they dont want a great guy in their life that actually gives a fuck about them. You could be the best guy in the world and they decided they dont want that, so IT IS THEIR LOSE!!

I totally feel ya. I cannot say if everyone has been via this phase, but I am still stuck in this mire of constant self doubts, depression, and insecurities. I have become so disillusioned with women that I was an escapist for 2 years, I shutted out all outside contacts, sat in front of the computer for 12hrs + a day. I recently got myself to stop play computer games, and started reading the PUA stuffs whenever I can find time. However, I am still not sure what if this stuff would bring about the changes that It had gotten my hopes up for. I am trying hard to ween off porn and get my head to focus to do other constructive things in life at the same time ( and stop thinking over and over and over again about sex). The one thing I have only just realised is that I still have alot of limiting thoughts holding me back. I didnt believe that It was possible that people all around me are indeed having so much sex, and the frequency of those being casual sex. I go out every day, thinking in my head asking why it doesnt happen to me???!!! I often wonder how these seemingly normal people on the street get it on, while me not getting anywhere even thought I am now more knowledgable than before. Where can I find the solution to this?

Life is a roller coaster ups and downs. I've been with many woman in my life and I'm quite good with ladies.

Though recently I just had a child and was done wrong by the mother of the child. Having a hard time getting by. Got a job that get me by but not enough to afford a car and all the bills that comes with a little one.

I went out for the first time in a while and was decimated by woman. Which was a new experience for me. Which I attribute to confidence.

Remember this to shall pass. Learn from it all and grow and keep it moving. Love yourself. You have to love yourself before others will open up to love you and your company just my two cents.

I've been where you at, mate!
and I think there are more people been where you are at, look at the possitive things in life is all what i can say...
and...
probably to get girls you need to get friends first....

Keep strong!!
cheers!

hey man i know the feeling of pain.the real pain.a pain so deep you wish you die right now...i had nighmares. nausea , cant eat cant drink , shaking , anxiaty ...i tought about suicide..i had a huge depression caused by drugs..it took me 10 years to get over it ..even now i feel pain sometimes..the point is when somebody talks about suicide its not time to judge him...cause you dont know him...you dont know what he went trough..people just say ''he is a coward,,life is so easy''why is he down?!?!''
my advice is too live these emotions but focus on you future...try to always stand up dont let people walk over you and watch this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1tXhJniSEc