I have pretty much success with average girls (with some physical attractive) and/or emotional issues (insecurity or low self esteem), on the other hand have very little success with HB (8+), I think this is a logical consequence because they are two very different scenarios, but I would like someone with more insight to expand on this issue.

My two last failed attempts were with these girls, they were attracted to me, we went out, and kissed but they lost interest very soon, I think both of them are 8 (that´s enough for me), I was crazy for each of them (the relationships were several months apart), and was really frustrated when the relationship did not succeed.

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I am learning all kind of new things here:

the links for the girls are:

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when you "I was crazy for each of them"
you are a nice guy.

It's all mental. You can't get the girls because you either: don't believe that you can, or don't believe that you deserve them.
You assume you can get average girls, and therefore you can. You don't have any fear or doubt about your ability to get them, also you have no fear of loosing them because you know they are replaceable. This is your edge. You're cool and calm and relaxed. You are not emotionally invested or attached to the girl at all. You are willing to walk away if necessary. And on some level you even feel better than them, like they are luck to be with you. This arrogance, confidence, feeling of superiority, and fearlessness; are what make your game so much stronger with average girls. But you have none of this edge with HBs, because you feel like they are more valuable, even better than you. You loose that edge. But it is all mental. It all depends how you see things. Reframe how you see yourself and how you see HBs and you can get your edge back.

Also it is important that you believe, to your core, that you deserve an HB. Because if you don't believe that, you will self-sabotage yourself in countless ways.

Kalel,

I think you are overall right, but i still think there is a difference because HB are hit much more and have higher barriers to get through, they expect more from a guy, more fun, more power, more sex appeal. The last 3 sentences are really important, I have to reframe my mind. Thanks for your help.

Its the same bro, but you are shooting urself in the head giving them a number. Do hb8 fucks better that hb6? do hb10 is better person than hb5? stop rating women, they are all the same: WOMEN, if you rate women you will be like "ok if i close with hb10 im a god and if i close with hb6 im not too good" LIE, stop rating women that destroy your balls, all women are the same, they all are insecure, they all need a man, simply talk to the "hb10" like if she was hb6.

And stop thinking you will not be good or a "PUA" until you fuck the 9 or 10s, thats just bullshit and sign of that you really have no game. Fuck those girls because you like them not just to get bigger your ego.

There is no difference between an average girl and a hottie. Ya more guys may check out the hottie more, but that does not mean you need to game them any differently because of their looks. If you want to score a hottie then adjust your game to the girl, not her looks.