I saw my female roommate talking with our HB9 neighbor one summer night after a girls' night out. I had just gotten out of the shower, and scrounged some clean clothes out of a bin to go out and talk to them. I wound up finding a somewhat shitty faded pink button shirt that's a size to big for me (was in a hurry).

I walked out and introduced myself. She's from NYC and was talking REALLY fast, but I managed to butt in and argue with her about movies a bit. The whole time she started taking off her coat really slowly and basically shoving her tits in my face (wasn't my imagination; my roommate agreed). She told me her work hours and pointed to where her apt was before we all said goodbye and went to bed.

We went back inside, and my roommate was pretty sure she was a bit wet for me. I facebooked her the next day. I saw her on once and avoided chatting (didn't want to seem too talkative since i was quiet and uninterested when i talked f2f), but left some jokey comment on one of her posts (she has hundreds of guy friends who leave comments far worse).

I continued to occasionally comment on her more abstract stuff over the next few weeks. I got fed up with it and knocked on her door one Thursday. I said I was going to Panera for some food and coffee and invited her to come with (MGHOW instead of forced coffee date). She said she needed an hour to get ready, so I went back home and did some chores for 50 min or so.

I got on fb and she rainchecked me in a message (said she had to clip coupons). She was still on, so I chatted with her for a bit. I said it was alright, and that I was going anyway (not explicitly). She gave me her # (I didn't ask for it) and told me to look her up over the weekend.

That Saturday, at about noon, I called her to ask her to a bar that night. She picked up a bit late (I was expecting the machine at that point), and I talked WAY too fast (I know, I know). She promptly hung up. Late I noticed that she wrote on my fb wall, saying that she was working overtime and only picked up because she thought she was my boss. I could easily see her car from my apt window, and it was still parked there.

I kept pursuing her with less intensity after that, and started to get a bit more AFC. Long story short, she wound up defriending me on fb shortly after she was in a "complicated" relationship. My roommate notified me that this status was immediately withdrawn when I was defriended.

More details will come as requested, but for now, I'd really like some feedback as to what ppl think I did right and wrong.

-The N00b

Been sitting here for 10 minutes wondering how you messed up. And quite honestly i have no idea.

But maybe instead of commenting on her more abstract facebook stuff over the next few weeks you should have used that time to set up a day 2 before the image of you faded from her memory. Maybe because it has been too long since you talked to her in person that night that she felt she didn't really know you well enough to go out on a coffee date.

You cared too much. You were too outcome dependant. It happens to all of us at some point, no worries.

Things you could improve: Not jumping at every chance to get in touch. You said you friended her on face book the next day, I would of personally waited for several days, or not friended her at all.

Think about it from her perspective: She sees her neighbor outside who seems nice and is maybe attracted to, but then he turns in to a semi-stalker. Adding her on facebook right away, commenting several times on different things throughout the week, showing up at the front door randomly, then when she blows you off, you call her and talk really fast until she is forced to lie and say she is working.

This is a good lesson for anyone in the field, women want a challange. Don't be so eager. I would of personally waited for the right time with a neighbor, since they aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Or you could of played it a different way and hit her up on facebook a few days later, number closed her on there right away since she already had comfort with you, then set up the date.

Yeah, I definitely did/was. Despite being my neighbor, she was really hard to bump into, and I don't meet anywhere near enough attractive women in my line of studies and social circle (trying very hard to fix that).

I thought about waiting longer to fb her, but my roommate said it would look too calculated. I wound up taking her advice on a lot of things, seeing as she knows the HB and stuff.

I don't have many prospects, and I think girls can smell that. I'm a physics student at Ohio State (a bit nerdy, yeah, but a LOT better than my colleagues). We have a horrible M/F ratio here and a lot of HUGE men to compete with (tall and beefy and stuff; the good kind of huge). Add on to that the fact that the Cbus lair is long dead, and I feel pretty fucked... or rather, not.

Basically what the guy before me said.
You may have come off way needy and I'm assumg this from what you typed before my reply,"I don't have many prospects" again don't come from the scarcity mindset as Tyler would say.
It comes off as needy,scared she'll go away, stalkerish plus it places her as higher value than you or other girls you may know.
Basically putting her on a pedestal which is totally against the "PUA" mindset.
That whole mindset can manifest itself in your actions like posting on her comments all the time, showing up to her door randomly and inviting her to coffee,calling when she doesn't call you back,speaking fast because you subconsciously believe she'll break rapprt, IM'ing her when she clearly said she's busy, stuff like that.

You have to develop a mindset where you're thinking,"Oh well if she doesn't get back at me I can go get at other chicks".
That should be how you think especially if you goto a university.
Bro there are LOADS of chicks you can open and get to know, expand your circle of friends that way !
See if you can get facebooks,numbers,emails, stuff like that.

I may sound like a keyboard jockey but I'm in the process of doing this just making friends where I can and if I'm interested enough asking for the information.
Even if you don't get her info it's much needed practice, it'll all add up I'm sure !

That's my 2 cents.