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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:29 pm 
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well il try and make this short but sweet. im a good looking guy with mediocre social skills. ive studied alot of techniques such as MM, Gamblers stealth attraction, 60 years of challenge, as well as various stuff form adam, style and tyler durden.

personally i think my style would be somewhere inbetween 60 and gambler, they interest me the most. so i went to the club last night as my first official night of sarging and i realized these two techniques didnt answer all of my questions.

1. 60's non verbal openers while may be good if theres a two set, as soon as theres 3 to four girls in a group this will come off creepy. i tried this and almost all of the times i would get resistance from the friends of the target (not the target though). SOOOO should i go with situational openers to open a group of women and establish a comfort level with her friends THEN isolate the target?

2. as far as voice tonality, in a noisy club i really cant do anything but yell or else she wont here me and it will be awkward. does voice matter when its loud or should i focus more on just closing distance and building sexual tension? this also kind of makes regular conversation less interesting because its such an effort to answer a quesiton i find.

3. is canned material better for a beginner? like i said the noise levels make conversation hard so i feel that either i have to be really sexual (physically. but this gets their friends attention) right off the bat or have something amazing to say and simply, i dont.

allin all i felt that somethings such as closing distance and not letting go of the handshake or sexual eye contact worked realy well and felt natural. but i feel that if i havent won over the targets friends there is an outside resistance that is hindering me. canned material on friends perhaps?

please help if possible, ive been studying pua for the last six months and am extremely dedicated. im not gunna stop until im the proverbial "man" haha. any insight would be greatly appreciated!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:18 am 
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First I'm no PUA I just read a lot of material and am probably at the same skill level like you. My advice:

OK I don't know where you live, but here in my country the clubs are fucking loud. If you want to talk to each other, you have no other choice than yell. For that reason I very rarely open a set with more then 2. Even if I open a 2set I have to yell very loud so her friend can also hear me and she doesn't start blocking me.

Often I also have a wingman around me who jumps in and keeps the girlfriend busy if she can't hear with I'm saying. Nevertheless I usually try to get the conversation going between the four of us as first. At that time it's my wingman who can do the other half of the talking. This makes it look like it isn't always me that is talking and because there are 2 of us, we can stand close to each one of them so none of the two get bored.

About canned material. I usually have a few canned openers in my head, but I only use those if I can't think of anything situational. Same for gambits. However I'm mostly just cocky & funny + some roleplaying + some storytelling + perhaps some cold reading doesn't really matter. I tell a lot of crap and here and there I tell stuff about myself.

I hope this helps.

PS: I don't really get very sexual at the approach or attractive stage cause like you said the girlfriend and perhaps the target starts blocking right away then. Some targets however like the sexual thing from the start but those are 9 out of 10 sluts and I'm not looking for those, but if you are you can certainly use it in your game.


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