Hi everyone,

OK, here's the thing. I'm 20 years old, I go to college and I live with my mom and brother in a two-bedroom apartment. I also have no extra job or a car. I wouldn't see myself poor, cause there are a lot of other people who are far worse than me, but I'm certainly not rich in a materialistic view.

Now, these Pick-Up Artist techniques taught me a lot of things so far: being cocky and funny, how to make a good approach, how to be the loudest man in the room, how to have humor, ... and so on. Furthermore, the PUA's are always the first to tell you that money isn't really important since you don't want to be seen as a provider and attract gold diggers. Sounds good so far, but I'm seriously starting to doubt this "money doesn't matter" thing. If I go out, I now and then can attract a girl. Unfortunately it never turns into a relationship.

The problem is: If I meet girls they always look turned off when I tell them I have no car or beautiful house or money. It's not like they instantly say goodbye or so. I still know a lot of them. I also only start telling those things in comfort-stage. But I do get this feeling those things are damaging my chances on a relationship.

Anyone knows how to fix this or where I can meet girls that aren't interested in such things? Sometimes I think I just need to wait till I graduate from college like the guys that are dating the girls from my age at my college right now, since they already got a thing going on for themselves. But then, I have to wait like 2 more years at least.

When I was younger in high school, those things weren't such an issue but back then I didn't know how to attract girls. I also considered moving out already, since then I wouldn't live with my mom and sleep in the same room like my brother, but without any job or money and the combination of college that doesn't seem really possible.

Anyway thanks on advance,

ZACK

PS: I live in a city that is actually known for his luxury lifestyle so I mostly go out to other cities since mine is crowded with gold diggers. Next to that, most girls even think I'm rich only by saying from what city I come from, so I mostly invent something funny instead. Damn this sucks.

How do you tell them about all this? And why? I mean I'm nearly 20, I'm unemployed, I have no money, I can't drive... Yet it doesn't seem to scare girls off from meeting me.

It's not about meeting girls or banging them. It's about turning them into a relationship. I don't know how you pull it off, but I think it's pretty obvious that these things come into play.

If you have experienced relationships where girls didn't get turned off, I would be happy to know where you meet these... Some girls I meet in the club only seem to know the words: "buy me a drink".

Yeah I know, most girls I meet are looking for the same. In fact I'm getting bored of fucking random girls and am looking for a girl worth getting in a relationship with. Of course there are girls that will care a lot about whether you earn a lot of money or not... But would you really want to be in a relationship with a girl like that? I know I wouldn't.

I don't make a big deal out of it. I'm not lazy, I'm trying my hardest to get work, I've just had a bit of bad luck this year. If we get talking about work I usually show this, so that I don't come across as just a bum, which is obviously unattractive to any girl. If I ever come across a golddigger, I don't give a fuck if they don't like it. I've never had much money, so I'm not a materialistic person, and so obviously a high maintenance girl who expects to be spoiled with gifts turns me off. There are plenty of girls that will like you for who you are rather than your money.

use ur game to get a job at a female clothing store

i did it... im in the same position except i dont go to school..

just focus on what u do want them to know and dont emphasize whats wrong w. the picture.. strong attraction and value will trump this... theres guys w. no jobs who have girls buy them everything.. its crazyness lol.. dont let it stop u..

flip the scrip on them and make them buy you things

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I think the money thing is a much bigger issue with relationships than it is in random pickup. After all, one of the middle stages of a relationship is moving in together, and even if you're not providing everything they'll probably want you to contribute.

It's not that all the girls I meet are instant gold diggers, but there aren't many who can think money out of the picture. If I meet an attractive girl where I think "this might be a good one", then I always try to convince her that money isn't an issue. But so far that hasn't seem to work.

BTW spoken of girls that aren't materialistic I might have to meet some hippies. Although I'm certainly not dressed like one myself. Where can you meet hippies? Or what hobbies do hippies have? Yoga? Maybe I should join a yoga class or whatever class where these non-money-girls are.

Oh and meeting girls that buy you things like apocalypto suggested sounds good. But the only girls I know who could do this are rich spoiled fat ugly girls cause the rich HB's have a boyfriend whose even richer.

You sound a lot like me when I first started this pua stuff. You may find it hard to believe, but the truth is that your financial situation is only a problem for women because its a problem for you. Well lets be realistic here and also point out that women who do much better than you, dont want to carry a guy financially, especially in an honest relationship. That being said, if you feel uncomfortable about something, women will pick up on it and get turned off. If money is tight do what I did... find a descent looking milf, thats willing to spend some money taking her boy toy around town... If only I could turn this into a business... hmmm...

Personally I don't feel like you focus should be getting into a relationship if you have no money..

Get your priorities straight..

What kind of decent mentally stable girl is gonna go for a guy with absolutey no money; it's not even about being a gold digger.

I've had chicks pay for all my shit, even in LTR's an I can tell you it's not fun after a while, it's rather depressing actually. An soon or later the chick begins to build up resentment. They feel like they're paying like I guy so they begin to try am act like the guy. That's when you put them in theyre place of course but still.


However you can pull off some decent lays until then. I've been if your shoes before. I fucked some hot chicks but a relationship?

Get a job, build some character and you'll attract better women. For now just fuck the sluts at your college.

Kanye said it best " I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing wit no broke N****"

I'm just saying

Fuze

OK, I'm starting to get the picture. Looks like I'll just wait for a serious relationship till I have enough money so I can at least support myself. In the meanwhile I'll continue expanding my social circle with girls who might be my girlfriend in the future, when I have a job.

If you think about it, the money thing sucks big time. If there wasn't any money, those beautiful girls wouldn't be choosing those rich boring snobs, but the guys with the attractive personality. I guess those "zeitgeist addendum"-guys are right after all...

Anyway thanks big time for your advice guys! Problem solved. ^^

1. Get a job at a bar. Instant friend circle of hot girls and fun guys.
2. You don't need to mention that you lack money or a nice house. Girls care a lot less about that stuff if you show AMBITION, GOALS, MOTIVATION, PASSION, ENTHUSIASM, DRIVE, and are INTERESTING, FUNNY and INTELLIGENT. All these things are FREE!
3. Daygame is FREE. You don't need to spent a cent to walk up to girls during the day and get their numbers and set up a date
4. A date can be grabbing a drink at the bar you work at (free), then getting a quick bite (a slice of pizza is what, $2?) going to see a band play a free show (there are tons during weekdays all over the place), and then heading back to your place to watch a DVD and have a good hard fuck (condoms cost like $0.25 each or something).

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i second everything blond guy said ther. i did bar work for a while and it was termendous. instant way to meet women and free drink and you get payed for it.(why am i not doing bar work anymore?)

also, ambition is powerfull and motivation should be attractive to a college girl if she sees potential of ur future earnings.

sharing a bedroom is a big stumbling block tho. bar work might just get u enough coin to find a more suitable living situation tho.

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Correct.

PU trainers do a huge disservice to the public when they tell people that NOTHING else matters other than (their form of) game. Sure, looks don't matter, money doesn't matter, but go ahead and pay up $2,000 for a boot camp.

Then there's the easy way out by simply blaming the girl. She's looking for money? = Gold Digger. She's into handsome guys? = Materialistic bitch. What's wrong with improving your life? You don't need to make a ton of money but some baseline needs should be addressed. The billionaire and the average guy still go to the movies, eat fast food once in a while, go to the park, museum, bars, etc . . .

@op, You're well on your way anyways. If you're in school, you're doing something that contributes to your future; you will find girls who are 'into this'. Ever read "Robb Report"? This is a 'toy magazine' for the wealthy but it's not just the wealthy who read it. Every issue features a 'showcase interview' in the back page of a particular 'wealthy guy'. Common themes: 1. Many failures prior to achieving success. = Persistence. 2. The people (woman) who believed in them. = Women aren't so attracted to success as they are with the 'ability' to achieve success.

at the moment i think what is turning these girls off is you sound like you are still acting like a kid, living at home with mummy, she is still doing your laundry and cleaning up after you , you arent taking responsibility for your own life and making any extra effort other than gettin up in the morning, or maybe your mum wakes you up too and drives you to college? hey maybe that isnt all true but if i think it, then maybe these girls get the same unattractive image in their minds too?
yep, you are doing good being at college, its great to have ambition, but that apart as well as concentrating on being a PUA, also really focus on improving your personal situation - if you make this your big goal, the relationship you seek will probably come much easier so follow the great advice above re getting a job in a bar and use the money wisely spending it on some other accomodation and a car plus i imagine that having an extra job whilst in college to put on your cv/resume will help you secure a proper job once you graduate

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