Went out saying hi to all women i could find in shopping precinct and hey what a result especially the ones not too busy in there own little world. Works really well with young attendants sitting at the till!
But when I went to local pub on saturday night all smarted up and tried same thing it was really awkward and i only got the odd estranged 'er hi' from the odd female (all in groups by the way) and kinda felt flamed. Women seem to have more defences up in the very place you'd expect to pick one up!
Would like to see someone do this in real life so's i can get out of thinking 'this wont work!' and believe in myself.
Will keep doing this till im happy with results though as its now my main mission in life!

Wel here's an experience, i was standing at macdonals on my own checking out 3 girls while waiting in line (2 hot ones and the third was bleh) so anyway they were at the satrt of the line and i was last.

then one of them turned her head back looking at my direction while she was laughing from her friends story i guess (i pussied and looked away) then turned front again, then they all moved back thru the line a bit (it wasnt really a line just people gathering at the counter) so ya then they talked a bit while another girl (not the one who looked at me) just turned her head towards like as if (oh that guy huh) then a min later they all just walked away infront of me.

After that another girl shows up looking a bit irritated and stands in line (i was kind of behind her) then i examined her a bit and then went up to her from a 45 angle from her back and was like

me:'hey, i like your watch, where did you get it from?'
her: guess.
me: (shoulda satrted guessing random stuff and made it funny but i said) oh rly? which mall? in bla bla?
her: ya any guess shop really.
me: in bla bla?
her: i actualy got it from america.
me: oh youre american *with a hint of surprisment*
her: no.

then i just nodded and looked in front of me, cause i figured if she was interested she woulda continued the convo by saying where she is from or w.e. (do youguys think my approach was decent?)

Hmm Im gona try the actual newbie mission the next weeked but my question is, i usually always hang out with friends when going to a shopping mall/centre.

my question: is the locking eyes while walking around thing, better done on my own or does it have the same result if im walking with a group (or will the group just disinterest the lone girl cause she might feel threatened looking towards a group of guys?)

Also does the passing by and saying hi involve eye contact or can i just pass by and say hi with a nice smile without her making eye contact with me? does it matter if its one girl by herself or a couple of them?

Appreciate the tips.

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zarata that sounds more like a field report to me.. you should start a thread on it

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haha I remember the first time I've done this was about 2 maybe 3 years ago. I was 21 and having a ball thinking it won't be long before I have a beautiful girl to enjoy movies, dinners, family time and other events with.

I would drive to mall after mall doing this until it was an everyday thing for me. I did this for a loong time before I started trying to actually talk to girls and trying to pick one up and then that's when it all hit me.

This is HARD!! I'm 24 living in a apartment alone working at a great job that I do love and still trying every day (mostly on weekends) to pick up a girl I can enjoy life with. I realized all of the science and math that went along with trying to pick up a girl when i was 22 and didn't really start trying to figure things out until now. I've learned magic tricks, mentalist tricks, read "The Game" and I still feel like I'm a square one. Now I'm here on these forums hoping to learn more on this in hope that by this summer coming up I'll have a solid game and routine but this won't stop me from talking to every girl I see.

anyways its worth it in order to overcome AA I mean I still have it at times just MUCH less then I did starting out

Ok went out and tried this about a week ago and ran into some problems

the mall I went to was pretty busy so I figured it wouldn't be to difficult to just say "hi" to about 20 or 30 people while walking around. The ones I did manage to to say Hi to they didnt seem to hear me (it was loud in there) and often I would be about to pass a girl, make eye contact, but she would break before I had to chance to open my mouth. This seemed to happen a lot gave me a lot more trouble then I had anticipated cuz it seemed really clunky and unnatural to shout in their face while they were walking briskly down the aisles at the mall. even the girls working at the mall seemed to distracted by the overall SPAM that I went unnoticed.

I think ultimately it was my own self confidence that was the culprit but I was wondering if anyone else had run into this problem? Often it wasn't my fault for not saying hi, but rather it was hard to keep anyone's attention long enough to say it

any suggestions? been on here about a month now and I already feel like I have changed my attitude towards my own social anxiety

Ive done this once, and had the same experience, people didnt listen or hear. the thing is maybe you should have something ready to say after the hi, so they feel like they want to listen. I would say "hi" and i could sense people in their head saying "yes?" in their head, but id freeze and continue to walk. If you have something else to say, it could start up a little convo which is what you really want to do, and that will give you practise.
It like though sales guys that want to sell you something, they know what to say next after they stop you on the street trying to sell you whatever, they have an intro, qualifying, short story, what you can do to help, close

To bhhammer and el dude- first off- congratulations on following the suggestions from Chief!
Ive been doing daytime Hi's for two months and had exact same anxiety as you guys. The simple matter is it DOESNT MATTER what responce you get as long as your doing this mission your experience and inner intuition will tell you to try differently simply from the percieved rejection (which seems a big deal at moment).
If your interested my experience tells me that old women are dead easy to get to say hi back as they are all to happy to talk to someone- old guys are the same but are just as responsive but not so talkative. Kids are a bit cautious but GIRLS/ WOMEN KNOW from that LONG walk up to each other theres a possible interaction coming and go all coy on you unless they really are forward. Trick I learnt there is to notice them then look uninterested and when your close then spring on them a quick 'hiya' and they always respond and usually smile-so cool.
Ive moved on to pubs with this- doing a pub crawl have a quick half and go round pub saying 'hi' to complete strangers and good looking women and I ALWAYS got a really friendly hi back. (if they look surprised I just said ' just being soscial' and then they laughed). Then I started complimenting women on there personal choices of clothes after good responce and hey presto- started a small convo from replies! This stuff works dont doubt it for a second just do it. Dont let the negative thoughts in your head say otherwise.
By the way got my first number close directly from this mission last week but kacking myself about what to say when I phone her up tonite but thats another step!
IT WORKS FOR REAL JUST DONT WORRY ABOUT IT

Did newbie mission in the morning, it was all okay. Say hello to 10-15 girls from scale 6-10. Some not respond, some say hello back it was fun.

But then i got one again in the afternon and want to say hello to HB but i fail, i didn't say to no one hello. I fail

I don't know in the morning was okey but in the afternon i have a lot AA.

talk later

Is there some kind of restriction to the type of women you say hi? Where I live, I can say hi and smile to 30 girls and not find one HB. So I wonder if should I discriminate some women in order to get the most of the exercise. Should I look for at least 3 or 4 HBs? Is there any number where I can say it´s enough? Sorry for being that detailed oriented.

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well I did it yesterday, I was walking at around 9 pm and an asian woman around 30 yr old was coming and I said hi, she replied hi back, we kept walking in opposite directions, that was it.

I did not feel nervous or anything, but maybe in a crowded place with other people watching it would be another story.

I am going to try again during the day, here I live in a place with many universities around so there is plenty of young and nice women.

Saying hi to ONE woman doesn't count as having done the mission. There isn't a specific number to aim for, but if you really need a number then I suggest going for 100 women in one outing.

I went out earlier today to the mall to do this.

It went pretty badly, lol. It was early on a Sunday, so the mall wasn't very crowded. I managed to choke out "hi" to seven or eight girls and a few other random people, and it really made me realize I have a problem projecting my voice, because only one or two responded. But I did manage to get it out several times, which is the point, right? It definitely put me out of my comfort zone, but I don't think it was far enough. I really need to work on my vocal projection so people actually react to me and do this enough that it seems natural. The only thing I really have to beat myself up about was that there were 2 HB9s walking out of Victoria's Secret that were easily the best looking girls I'd seen all day, and I didn't say a word.

All in all, it was at least a good experience. But I need to do it more.

I think this exercise is designed to overcome your Approach Anxiety. Its supposed to give you more power in your words and when approaching people.

My first step to getting over this was doing the exact same thing. I go to a therapist and she said to do this. So its no secret that this is a way to get over your AA about things. It really does work.

I went to the mall and said i was going to do the cologne opener. Where you spray two different colognes on each arm and go around asking which one smells the best.
At the start of the day i approached a mom and her daughter who was like a hb7. After that it was easy i approached probably 20 - 30 different women. Nothing bad every happened except for one i stop and she acted like she was scarred as hell for some reason. So i think i must have had bad body language.

The worst thing that happened was i approached a few hb 10's who were like sales reps i guess but one of the people standing in the middle of those kiosk. They said I am working. Other than that i did not get attacked. I even had one good interaction with one of the girl were i definitly felt i could have gone farther she kept grabbing my arms like 20 times after she had already smelt them so idk if that was an IOI or not.

I have noticed something though if you a girl don't approach and walk around the for a bit then come back you get a cold response. I don't know if there is something going on were they think you had to go and think about it or something.

The next thing i am going to try out is going to be direct. I think doing this will give me the most confidence because you have to really put yourself on the line.

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