I dont know if Ive had a lot of bad luck in last few days or if im doing something wrong, but im just so pissed off today I had to write about it.

My bad mood started last night when I girl that I was into and was supposedly into me ditched me to go hang out with some loser bf she doesnt want to cheat on that she didnt even tell me about before. There is another topic about it if you feel like reading the full story. i-think-i-can-close-this-girl-but-how-vt79256.html

After she ditched me I called one of my afc friends and we went clubbing, I felt like redeeming myself. I opened a bunch of girls in the line and they seemed interested, one in particular seemed to like me.

In the club they went their own way and I just stared opening girls indiciminately (at least im over the fear of approaching).

1 - I asked a girl that walked past what she thinks my friend should wear on a blind date, she gave me 30 seconds of advice and walked off

2 - I asked a girl that walked past if he looks like a drug dealer, she said yes a little bit, we talked about it for like 1 minute and she walked off

3 - at the bar while getting a drink I turn ask a girl something like this:
ME: are you the girl from before?
HER: From before when...
ME:Umm, outside? werent you the one fighting?
HER: haha no
ME: o right, you look like her. Did you see the fight?
HER: no what happened?
ME: two girls were fighting over a guy, etc. etc.
we talked about that and other stuff for like 5 min and then she just said "Im gonna go over there but it was nice meeting you"

4. I ask a girl if she likes my accent (im australian), she is impressed for a while until her friend cockblocks me,this bitch just walks in like "She has a boyfriend"
ME: ok, we were just talking
FRIEND: She has a boyfriend tho, cmon jess
ME: just relax, huh? Let us finish our conversation, we arent doing anything else
FRIEND: I have to watch her cuz she has a bf, leave this guys just come with me
ME: *Walk in between them and say to the friend* "Just fucking calm down, I dont care that she has a boyfriend. Dont be such a fucking bitch"
She left and I talked to the girl for like 5min, she was IOIing me all over the place. the she went to "pee" and never came back. 10min later I saw her hooking up with some drunk dumbass who was definitely not her boyfriend.

5. I ran into the girl from the line again. We talked about random shit for like a good half an hour. There were tons of IOIs, near the end she was standing so close to me she was practically leaning on me. I was about to take her somewhere private sice she probably didnt want to kiss me next to the bar in front of her friends. Btw during the conversation she made an effort to point out that she has a bf from high school but only at home, in college she is "single".

But... some idiot afc came up and said "hi how are you?" to her. after letting him speak for about 30sec I went up to her and whispered (while putting myself between her and afc) "did you see my friend, he ditched me I think I need to find him?". The afc left and she was like "thanks for that he was wierd"

Then her friends come up to us:
FRIEND: Come get your coat, we're leaving
HER: Oh are we?Ok i guess (she looked like she didnt want to leave)
ME: you guys are leaving already? I didnt know you were such lightweights that you gotta leave at like 12.30.
FRIEND: yeah, sorry, there are other girls in the club to have fun (why do girls always do this to me)
ME: dont leave some of your friends are staying go home with them.
HER: hm, yeah think I might do that
FRIEND: fine come pee with us
HER:ok
ME: Dont go, they are fine to pee with out you
FRIEND: stop making her stay
HER: sorry, i gotta pee
ME: fine whatever
HER: dont be mad
ME: Im not cya
HER: look ill give you my number if you want (I feel like some girls do this to make guys leave)
ME: I dont want your number right now, come find me later

She didnt, they went to pee and left the club. I felt like something I worked for was stolen right out of my hands. I was so pissed.

I dont get it, Im not a bad looking guy, im confident and Im interesting, why arent girls attracted to me? I feel like the only reason girls are ever attracted to me because I have a fucking australian accent. I dont know whats gonna happen once spend so much time here that I lose it, im already loing it...


My friend on the other hand seemed happy to spend the entire night getting drunk and no talking to any girls..

Insanity= doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

1.You opened some girls with some canned lines, but you had nothing after that
2.You asked how one liked your accent
3.You argued with ones friend, thus making her an enemy
4.No kino
5.Sounds like you were almost begging one to stay

Basically it sounds like you were boring the shit out of them. Once you get their attention, you have to keep it. You need to escalate, Kino, sexual tension, a little C&F, DHV etc. In other words you need to be more interesting, have more energy. Think what would set you apart from all the other guys in there?

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I will not apologize for who I am, what I am or what I'm about to do...

lol at the insanity definition. Ok, ive calmed down - 3 hour gym session helped now I can calmly analyze what I did wrong.

Firstly, I was being interesting/energetic, I donno if I can be overly so. I also have a lot more to offer then the average guy, its just hard to convey immediately if a girls default attitude is to run for the hills when a guy appreaches.

I guess I was in a bad mood last night anyway, probably showed in my body language as well. As for the things you listed:

1. How can I follow up if they leave while im halfway through the opener? besides, these openers are meant to be subtle but they are only that for like 10 seconds after which the girls realizes your hitting on her and tries to leave.

2. Whats wrong with that? I feel like this is the only thing that get their attention sometimes.

3. I know, she was so annoying that it was worth screwing this one up just to yell at her

4. I did kino, a lot. At least the ones that stayed longer the 30sec, especially girl 5

5. Probably was, and it isnt the first time ive done it. IDK how to solve this, I just feel like sometimes everything lines up. I like a girl, she likes me, I spend half an hour or two hours or whatever working on her, im about to isolate or close or whatever stage im at and then something completely random happens like her roommate/afc friend/some deuchebag that neither one of us ever met cockblocks me. i mean if she likes me how can she be swayed so easily by others and why is it everyones business to stop me from having sex with a girl? especially her friends? dont they trust that she will make the right decision? It just feels so random, either I try to isolate or close too early and she isnt comfortable or I wait too long and someone cockblocks me.

I feel like something always happens. And you know last night I realized that you wouldnt believe some of the tools that I see with hot girlfriends. I mean 99.99% of the male population somehow manages to get laid or get a gf, i dont understand why im having so much trouble. I admit i do aim higher then most but still, I see complete dumbasses with hot gfs, and I dont mean AMOGs (they at least have something going for them), I mean guys that know how to do nothing but get completely wasted every night and act like complete idiots all the time.

Easy one first, why you don't ask "do you like my accent" it's the same as asking "do you like my hair" or Do you like my muscles" you're asking her to validate you, shows lack of confidence, if she likes it she'll tell you.

Yes you're bad mood probably did mes you up, you can't be positive without a positive attitude.

Using a line on a girl walking by is not working, if a girl is walking by she usually has a destination in mind, try approaching and opening some girls sitting. You can't stand at the bar and say "hey come here I want to ask you something"

Maybe you thought you were being interesting, but were you talking about things that interest you or things that may interest her? From what you said you're from Australia but you're now somewhere else. Maybe talk about the time a kangaroo attacked you, or the time you saved a koala bear etc.

Once you get a conversation going don't be afraid to create some sexual tension' laugh, cut up you're there to have a good time, so have one.

No matter what don't beg, be indifferent, act like no big deal.

Watch the "tools" with the babes and see what they're doing.

From reading your posts, it sounds like you're being needy and desperate, women can sense desperation a mile away, they just have a knack for it. Devolop an attitude that YOU ARE THE PRIZE, not her

Again remember you're there to have fun, don't let frustration get you down, don't get stressed. Go with the flow. You say you have the confidence and the looks, just tweak you're game a little and you should be on your way!

Good luck

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They get wasted, and then pretty much stick their dick in whatever moves. I dont mean literally but because everyone in clubs grinds, they pretty much approach a girl from behind, grab and start dry-humping. No matter how well anyone tells me that might work I just cant do it, im just not that much of a sleezbag.

The afcs I see in the street with hot girls act just like they seem, afc. They are needy, they follow them around like puppy dogs and when they are around their mates they yell a lot and make bad toilet humour jokes. Again, appart from my self respect not allowing me to do that, it seems the opposite of what everyone in this forum is telling me to do.

The other thing is that i have emotions too, despite the modern day image that men dont/should not be emotional. I mean I dont break down and cry for no reason but I do get angry/sad/self-conscious sometimes. Its really hard to just act like you dont care about anything when sometimes you do. If I act like I dont care about a girl the whole time then whats the point? Eventually i have to WANT to do something with her otherwise there is no point kissing/fucking/whatever her.

Just my two cents

Are you for real? We all have emotions, being able to control them is a vital tool for successful game. first of all the fact that you would get emotional over a girl you just met makes no sense to me but you have to hold it in, no one wants to be with the whiney guy, thats why she didnt come back. Be cool.

One thing I know for sure is that if you are angry, jealous, insecure, etc. before you even leave home, it is better not to go out. If you had a shitty week you must have the attitude that you are going out to have fun and wash away the shitty week. Basically you have to be in a positive "state".

I dont see the problem. This could ve been a night for me, except I would feel great afterwards for the approaches I made and the opportunities to learn and improve.

The first replier, Nayail, already identified all the problems in the interactions, use it to your advantage. Just identify your sticking points and improve. Really... there isnt any problem. Work on your attitude, if this discourages you, your attitude is wrong.

yeah you guys are right, ill work on the sticking points and learn from my mistakes. Thanks

1.Ive gotten girls emails here and there but they never respond when i email them, anyone know why?
2. If a girl is being friendly to you while talking it would make u assume she likes you so why would she say no when u ask for the number? what do you do in that case?