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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:05 pm 
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First thing to describe is your appearance, you look good, and by that I don't just mean well groomed. I mean, in shape, fit, you look physically attractive. (1)
Upon approach you have good open and confident body-language. No staring at the ground, no nervous darting eyes. You smile confidently, keep strong seductive eye contact, and speak slowly and carefuly. Also worth making your first point of physical contact here (touch on the arm etc) this communicates dominance, and this little touch ALONE improves your chance of being accepted into conversation by about 30-45%. The more you get right here the easier it gets (2).

TRANSITION.

You can open with whatever, as long as you make sure it's not out of place. (3) You transist to whatever topic you feel the girl/s will enjoy talking about or one which you can talk about to show your good characteristics (4).

Note: At this point the girl/s will give a better clue of what they think of you, if they take the transition and go with it enthusiasticaly and start showing with their body-language and voice that they are into you, well done, you can progress as normal. If you get a negative responce, then just keep positive and plow on regardless. Don't lash out, don't act afraid, just relax and keep doing what you are doing. If the responce is extremely negative, or the girl/s just look like they are in auto-pilot, then look for a break point.

BREAK POINT.

If the girl/s are not already interested, (and by that I mean, acitvely engaging you in the conversation and aknowledging you) this is where you have to present to them that either...
A: You're a worthy guy, and that it's in their interest to pursue you.
B: You're not a rapist, and any weird vibe that you accidently gave of was pure accident.

The break point should also form function C.

C: Break the girl/s out of auto-pilot, and give any aggressive girls the cue to become passive and start afresh.

Usually the Break point can take the form of a joke, or a game, that causes you and the group to react in some way.

MID-GAME.

You move the conversation to a topic which is fun, uses imagination and possibly a topic linked to sex, adrenaline or something exciting that will get the girl/s into a fun, relaxed, creative (5) and horny mood.

You use alot of Eye Contact. It's not only incredibly sexy (Largely the reason alot of psychopathic killers are rated as being so attractive seems to be their disposition for holding a strong gazing eye contact) But also through backwards rationalisation strong Eye contact makes you and the girl feel closer and more comfortable with one another (6).

During the interaction you are letting her do AT LEAST 50% of the talking, you should guide the conversation towards topics that you think will move the convo forward but if you can get her conversation up to 70% or so it will let her have a chance to seduce you, and it lets her realise that she is investing in you.

You do this purely by making eye contact and then waiting for her to break the silence and ask you a question, or keep talking.

CLOSE GAME

You get back to your place or hers and although you talk briefly once you're in the house, through Eye contact and deliberatly limiting your conversation you don't hesistate to get physical. She willingly accepts or sometimes instigates this becuase she understood perfectly well what you were after not 10 seconds after you first met her.

You procede to rock her world. (7)

NEXT MORNING.

Make a decision whether to keep in touch ( 8 ).


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NOTES- As listed in the main text.

1. This can be done through fitness, and completely changing your diet. Along with taking measures to remove anxiety from your life through meditation/organising your time better etc etc

Humans are visual creatures and it helps massively to be good looking, along with that good looking people are treated better socialy and proffessionaly, so if you have the guts to put in some major changes to your life next week in terms of diet, fitness, body language/voice adjustment. The easier the rest of this stuff comes.

The key to making truly noticable changes in this area is commitment. One basketball game a week and an apple for lunch won't change much over the next month. Rather, work out 3-4 times a week and drasticaly reduce your intake of highly processed foods and replace it with fish, fruit, veg, meat and GOOD dairy.

2. Pick up is a reggressive thing, the better the open, the easier the transition, the better the transition the easier the...

You get the picture, point being your opening 5 seconds says alot about you and how the interaction will go so it's worth making sure you get it right.

3. Don't use "Hey, wanna fuck?" in starbucks. And Avoid lame lines like "this is a great place isn't it?"; when everyone is busy partying in a packed bar.

4. Unless you can hook her purely on sexual communication and good looks, it's worthwhile figuring out your good qualities and how you can display them without coming across as a douche.

5. Being creative is very important. If the girl/s are being creative then they will be happier, deviating from their origonal plan, and doing things that they wouldn't expect to do normally. Similarly practising and learning how to be creative YOURSELF can work wonders for your ability to use intuition in PU.

6. It's important that you use these things to make YOURSELF comfortable with her aswell. No point her being calm and you being cautious.

7. It's worthwhile reading up on sexual technique and making sure you know how to give at least ONE good orgasm to a girl.

Multiple benefits here: It will make you more comfortable with what you are doing sarging wise; give her a better time AND develope a positive and healthy outlook on sex and which will influence how you conduct yourself with the opposite gender in a very positive way.

8. You'll notice I didn't mention anything about managing expectations. You can do this if you want. But in my experience there are plenty of girls out there just looking for a fuck and getting frustrated when the guy from two weeks ago bangs on their window at 4am looking for a cuddle.

Further-more she is her own autonomous being, she has free will and responsibilities of her own, if she wants a relationship, she should tell you this BEFORE you have sex.

Sex is not a contract, you are not oblidged to do anything with this girl purely becuase you fucked her.

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One of the best written posts i've ever seen in here. Is there a way I can make this a favorite? I'm gonna read it when I wake up every day lol


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What's your ideas on kino, for clarification.

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that is without a doubt the best way to describe how its done. kinda a check list and inbewteen is where the technique and routines should be tossed in.


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What's your ideas on kino, for clarification.
From what I have seen there are two ways to do it.

Either.

A: You gradually ramp up the kino from the start, to get your message across, and to aid along seduction so it doesn't seem to "contrived".

OR

B: Kino is there solely to give of dominant and sexual vibes. And you rely on sexual tension (read: good awkwardness which forces her to talk and break the silence or do something) to do the seducing.

It's really up to the individual which path they want to explore. I am personally still swimming around in PU trying things here and there trying to refine myself and my style (and have fun while I'm at it) etc. This post is just a distilled version of what I believe is a clear no bullshit way to get sex, which deliberatly does not rely on to many assumptions about women.

Thanks for the support guys! Give it a try and tell me how it works out for you!


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that is without a doubt the best way to describe how its done. kinda a check list and inbewteen is where the technique and routines should be tossed in.
Thanks for the comment, But largely the resaon I have written it is to show a way in which without techniques you can step by step, walk up, talk* for a bit, talk a bit more (if you don't immiediatly hit it off), isolate and close.

WITHOUT having to attempt any intricacies (such as push/pull or false disqualifiers)

* by talk I don't mean DHV. I mean actual back in forth conversation as oppossed to a soliloquy


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cool man, yeah i liked it didnt rely on many assumptions and that the 'break frame' idea which to me sounds like a hook point but a better understanding of how a hook point works.

yeah i find you wanna get an arm around her as fast as possible even if its just for 5 or 10 seconds.

and you're so right about how you want her doing 50% if not 70% of the talking. seriously did Mystery not realise chicks talk a lot, not guys. you just need frame control in conversation.

its nice and simple. maybe a bit too vague for a beginner but if someone is getting confused on what theyre supposed to be doing whilst theyre out there then this would help them refine their game.


peace and love,

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that is without a doubt the best way to describe how its done. kinda a check list and inbewteen is where the technique and routines should be tossed in.
Thanks for the comment, But largely the resaon I have written it is to show a way in which without techniques you can step by step, walk up, talk* for a bit, talk a bit more (if you don't immiediatly hit it off), isolate and close.

WITHOUT having to attempt any intricacies (such as push/pull or false disqualifiers)

* by talk I don't mean DHV. I mean actual back in forth conversation as oppossed to a soliloquy

so would you call it natural game?


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Very nice post Fin.

This reminds me a lot of the important or "good" parts from MM, with all the weird socially robotic BS removed. Also I like how you added in some nice natural elements to make the transitions from initial convo to more intimate convo to getting physical easier and well just more natural.

Well put together, no nonsense and very solid advice.


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that is without a doubt the best way to describe how its done. kinda a check list and inbewteen is where the technique and routines should be tossed in.
Thanks for the comment, But largely the resaon I have written it is to show a way in which without techniques you can step by step, walk up, talk* for a bit, talk a bit more (if you don't immiediatly hit it off), isolate and close.

WITHOUT having to attempt any intricacies (such as push/pull or false disqualifiers)

* by talk I don't mean DHV. I mean actual back in forth conversation as oppossed to a soliloquy

so would you call it natural game?
Thanks again for the support guys! :)

When I sarge using this kind of "model" I am thinking, but I'm thinking about the more important things than "techniques"; I prefer to focuse on the main themes and get the bigger picture for what is going on.

I wouldn't really bother wondering about what is naturla or not, but the term "natural" in PU is really vague.


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