gamed a younger girl, decently. was not perfect but was okay(new at this). I see her everyday just because of our jobs.

I asked if she would want to hang out sometime(EDIT: she seemed pretty interested in hangin out when i asked). She flaked and told me some wacky story. I am 90% sure was a lie. She was very apologetic though. said she would make it up to me. I saw her today and didnt really make a big deal about it and just laughed it off

She happens to be very shy so I am always the one starting the convos. She always looks sad and bored until I get her to laugh.

Would it be good game to just not say anything to her for a day? I know she is expecting me to talk to her every time I see her so maybe I should just not start convo with her. sort of like a prolonged "freezeout". there will be awkward silence though for about 5 mins

yes. punish her for not coming out with you. if you brighten up her day, she's gonna have dark days until you brighten 'em up again

I think the fact that shes yiunger and shy will make ignoring her a bad idea. Youll probly just push her away, thats why shy girls suck u dont kno if they are uninterested!

thats one for yes ignore and one for no ignore.


anyone else?

I'm ignoring one girl right now. Story is similar. When we're together she seems into me, but nothing is coming from her. So I decided to ignore until tomorrow afternoon and then invite her to join me and my friends to a party.
But I had a pretty decent Day2 with her already, so I suppose I built more comfort. Hard to say really, but I had generally good success with freeze outs, so I'd go with yes.

i had a perfect opportunity for a freezeout the other day. completely missed it. fuck!

Now, is she just shy or LSE cos low self esteem a whole nother thing and they cant handle real rejection but i'm always pro freeze out. Don't be hostile just indifferent

So let's get this straight . . .

1. You do your clown act and get her to laugh.
2. You ask her to "hang out" and she doesn't.
3. You will either continue the clown act or stop the clown act for a planned period of time and then ask her to hang out again.

Getting her to 'laugh' is fun but the goal is to get her ATTRACTED to you; the idea is to get her sexually attracted to you. Alright, let's go with the 'ignore route'. You'll just leave your clown outfit at home to 'punish her'. . . this tells her:

1. That the clown act was your ploy to get into her pants and you're pissed that it isn't working. (Not such a funny clown after all . . .)
2. She knows you'll just be back around to repeat your clown act anyways. (Just as you're planning)
3. She learns that you're an on/off button for amateur comedy hour.

Listen, if you're going to 'withdraw' something from her, how about first presenting something that she would actually CRAVE? It's called "CARROT and STICK" NOT "Lame Game and Stick". Research, read, practice.

By the way, look up 'freeze out' in the PU lexicon. If you're going to do it, might as well as do it correctly, in the right situation . . .

you need to understand why she flaked first..

She flaked because all you had w. her was Surface Attraction.. As soon as she left the interaction.. you were irrelevant to her emotional state...

Why did u only generate surface attraction? because u didnt have enough value or prizability to make ur attraction game stick..

so Now.. punishing her, freeze outs, iod's really arent gonna do anything because it dont fix the original problem..

ur value..

DHV is the solution.. not by telling her a funny DHV story.. By SHOWING her.. Pre-selection, social value, reputation, that sorta thing... as far as her flaking, act like u forgot, it didnt even matter to you.

shes not going to remember either.. girls only really think about whats relevant to them emotionally at them moment... shes not gonna think about it unless u make her...

okay, then give me a quick example of building sexual attraction vs what i did, which was neg her, make her laugh, and tell some interesting things about myself.

im leary of building sexual attraction in a girl that is prude and shy(definitley not LSE). i know thats the wrong attitude but still.

this would be hard for me because i dont have much value in a lot of areas. mostly socially. I am good at certain hobbies and sports, im decent looking, nice vehicle, smart and knowledgeable, i tell her stories that make it seem like i am having more fun in life than her.

i did forget about her flaking and maintain my up beat attitude though.

bump

In this story i would be the girl, so i dont think you have anything to worry about

Sure, KINO ESCALATE, make statements about her, ask qualification questions, test for compliance, hold sexual eye contact, display knowledge and ability across various topics/skills, KINO ESCALATE, turn the conversation sexual, push her away a little, get her to re-engage, KINO ESCALATE.

Did I mention kino escalation?

And you're right, being WARY of building sexual attraction in women makes no sense. That girl you think is the smart, professional type with glasses who reads Proust and dresses like a total prude? Yeah she's the one the plumber is fuckin in the ass while calling her his dirty little whore. But yeah, don't forget to neg her about her fake nails when you see her next!

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