Hey everyone,


So basically my questions is pretty simple. How do you prevent the Infamous "Friend Zone" situation?


Im 18, VERY social, etc, etc. I get along with just about anyone but when it comes to girls I almost ALWAYS end up in the Friend Zone situation and Im still trying to figure out why. I question if Im TOO bubbly, etc or too open. I also wonder if my intentions aren't set soon enough with SPAM. I ask you all for any advice you have and it would mean a lot.

All the best.


About me:
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:59 am Post subject: New to the game...need advice
Hey everyone,

So heres the scoop. Im 18, Im a Music Producer/Writer and I live in LA. I've had a lack of confidence with girls my entire life and have always have an awful time making things happen. In my career, with friends etc, I have ounces of confidence but when it comes to girls I fall FLAT on my face..

I tend to end up in a few similar situations EVERY time I approach a girl or DONT approach a girl and I figured Id come to you all and see if you could help me figure out what Im doing wrong.

1. Im afraid to make a move at all. - I see a girl when Im out and about and instead of making a movie or even saying HI I become shy/stalkerish and just allow myself to loose control of the situation and nothing happens.

2. I meet a girl and really like her but I end up as the "happy go lucky/good guy/best friend/etc" - For some reason when I approach a girl after meeting her in what ever way or another I end up as just the friend and nothing more. "Don't see you like that", etc. Those are the typical reactions. Im a very open guy with very little mystery left and I know that is probably part of it.

3. I feel like I try and rush things.

4. Once in Friend Zone, is it too late?



ANYTHING you can offer as advice means a lot to me.

Hmmm anything i can offer you?.... ok here's one... MAN THE FUCK UP lol! stop being a bitch... sort your shit out and be the man... real men go for what they want no questions asked lol... seriously man start taking control of situations... be a leader and dont be afraid of what anyone thinks of you... who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks... they're no one to you

sorry if it sounds harsh... just trying to get my point across

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Also keep sexual tension going.

If you talk or do things sexual girls will think of you that way. If your a friend and don't kino or flirt or anything then the girl will always place you in the friendzone. I've quickly learnt this.

If you kino escalate properly then the k and f close will just happen naturally rather than seeming like a big deal. Learn your kino escalation ladder and make sure you get 2-3 touches within 1 minute with EVERY girl you EVER meet from now on.

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Once in Friend Zone for quite a while....is it too late?

nope but it does mean you have a job on your hands.

this might be hard but you need to freeze her out of your life for 3 months + depending on how deep your in.

once that times past then you need to kino escalate rapidly and build up sexual tension.

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