Hey Guys,
Got a scenario for you:
So I was out in my usual club last weekend and met an HB7 or 8. We were talking and joking and she seemed really into me (even though at the end she said she has a boyfriend. ). Now, were it got rocky was her bitchy girlfriend. First, one of my friends tried talking to her, but she was very unresponsive so he left after a couple of minutes. I tried to include her but it was really hard because I couldn't get a single routine done, without her interrupting me because she couldn't hear me. So I just ignored her and went on with the target. Of course 10-20 minutes later they left, because the bitch was bored.

So how can I deal with bitchy obsticales, especially if talking to them is almost impossible because of the music?
And another thing. As I said my target has a boyfriend, but she was REALLY into me and we still text every day. Should I try to get more going, phone her, try to meet her? At least she could be usefuly for meeting her friends.

Hey Mr. Valentine:

I am by far not the most successful PUA if you could even call me that I am more of AFC haha.

Anyway to address your first issue:

-I run into billions of situations when I am gaming and am not quick enough to resolve the issue (can't think of what to do)

-That is why I like the forum we are able to ask questions get answers and hopefully remember them.

#1: You had good frame, and it was good that you carried on with your routines even though you tried to include the obstacle. What I would have done (I say this now) lol. Is a trick i picked up when actually opening a girl. I would point to a cool looking guy and be like "you see that guy over there you two would look so cute together Im gonna introduce you" grab her (obstacle) by her hand and drag her to the guy. Tell the guy "hey my friend has been wanting to meet you she is just super shy" Depending on how she responds: (1) If she leaves "Yell at her and say come on? and tell the guy see she is just sooo shy" -He might come over later to you and try to opener her lol (2) If she stands there and is silent "come on he wont bite, you can look at the guy and say right?" (3) If she responds do an opener with the guy and her you should try to ease them in a conversation. Here you can either wave your target over and conversate in a group or pairs and then isolate her. or you could just leave the obstacle to chat with the man and go back to your target: immediate isolation.

#2: Depending how many days you have been texting: granted she says she has a boyfriend but just because she does does not mean she has eliminated you as a perspective partner unless you have been placed in the friend zone. I you have been placed in the friend zone it is gonna take some work to get out if not then youre still in the clear.
- Definitley talk on the phone: people need that 1 on 1 voice communication-tone helps build sexual attraction: I would try to set up an immediate date: If you have been placed in the friend zone: she will probably go, if she still sees you as a perspective partner: she may ask to take her boyfriend or deny you or she may still go
-Make the date fun, low key something friends would do but you have the isolation and can build attraction. (not a movie)

*Nothing is clear cut in pick up: Its all a matter of opinion, everything you see here on this forum is like statistics: trial and error. Just because it works on 99 girls doesnt mean it will work on 100. But it is the best scientific step in helping guys so if something fails, try and try again: sometimes it will work and sometimes it wont. It may be you or it may be the girl. Just do your best!

As for the obstacle, ignore her.

As for your wings, who gives a shit if she's unresponsive. You still wing. Even if you don't pick her up, he can be very distracting.

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First thanks for the post. Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm in friend zone. But I guess I'm fine with that, I don't really feel good with intervening in somebodys relationship. It just doesn't fit in my moral system, if you get what I mean.
But I will tell her about a college party this weekend and tell her to come and have a drink with me. And that she should take friends with her. I may not get her, but she is hot and we all know that hot girls are likely to have hot friends.

@AFC Royal You are right, my Wings are not really into the PUA-Stuff but I guess they could take one for the team once in a while.

Hey Mr. Valentine its been awhile, kind of got off the horse for awhile! So how did the party pan out? Give me some details Any new adventures?