Thinking way beyond (Inner) Game



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 14 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Get Into The Game: New Forum Members Start Here » PUA Lounge




Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:25 pm 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:35 pm
Posts: 2091
Website: http://www.sashapua.com
Location: London
The 18th century visionary philosopher Immanuel Kant, in his landmark work "The Critique of Pure Reason" wrote that the external world itself is essentially formless energy, without dimension or time. We, as humans, in order to bring order and sense to this energy, divide it up into three dimensions and come up with descriptions like texture, colour and size, based on the necessarily limited information our sensory apparatus provides.

When we dream, we use exactly the same cognitive faculties that we use when we are awake to essentially create a world. The ONLY DIFFERENCE between the dream state and the awake state is that in the awake state, there is a constant stream of sensory data coming in, and in the dream state this data comes from the subconscious mind.

When you are awake and you see an object, your experience of that object is created INSIDE YOUR MIND. You do not directly experience ANYTHING. You are CREATING the world that you experience all the time, every day.

A simple optical illusion: http://www.colorcube.com/illusions/blndspot.htm

This shows that, in the absence of any data coming in, your brain makes assumptions about the world, and "fills in" the gaps to produce a self-consistent reality that looks and feels completely real. Despite the fact that this version of reality is WRONG.

What on earth does this do to help me, you ask?

As a human being with free will, you have the ability to alter your beliefs and assumptions about yourself, the world and the people around you. When you do this, you can alter how you perceive the world and literally change your reality.

On one of those miserable days when you feel terrible, when you look around, it really seems like everybody is frowning at you, like lots of small things are all going wrong, that everybody's out to get you.

On a day when things are going well, you look around and all you see is smiling faces, all you hear are compliments, and all the little things just fall into place effortlessly.

You have all the tools, already within you, to make your reality a totally positive experience. As Viktor Frankl said "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." As a holocaust survivor, Frankl had a breakthrough moment when he realised that, no matter how many freedoms you take away from a person, nobody can take away your freedom to decide to feel happy if you want to be.

Once we disconnect the external world from our own internal mind, we realise that we don't need to do or say anything, we need no more advice from anybody, and nothing "out there" needs to happen or not happen for us to achieve a sense of well-being and clarity.

What does this entail then?

1. Thinking like "I'll be happy when I fuck a model" or "I'll be secure once I have £50,000 in the bank" makes NO SENSE. Does the model herself transmit happiness particles into your soul directly? Does the money in the bank wire a feeling of security through the aether into your brain? No. There are some external stimuli, you interpret them, and then you DECIDE that you should be happy based off of that. But there are two problems. The first is, as soon as you have that money, you then start worrying that you might lose it. Also, if you fail to bag that HB10, you might think you can NEVER be happy.

Instead, why not simply decide on a few very simple things that are enough to make you happy? Things that you have control over, already have, or are within you and cannot be affected by the external world? For Rong Qiqi, the legendary Chinese ascetic, all he needed to make him happy was being human, being a man, and living to an old age. He didn't need material wealth, power or status, and was completely content (although admittedly sexist!). You need not choose what he did, but instead of thinking "I'll be happy when I get that promotion." Why not think "I'm already happy because I have a job, I'm successful at it, and I have great prospects. A goal of mine is to get a promotion, which would be great, but I don't need the promotion to be happy because I already am."

2. Nobody can insult you, dent your confidence, break your heart or ruin your day unless you ALLOW them to affect you. You make the decision to either react to everything as though it's a slight against you, or to be in a positive frame of mind and either ignore it, interpret it as a compliment, or laugh it off by agreeing with it until it becomes an absurd joke. It's your decision, so why not decide to make every interaction as enjoyable as possible, and every day as filled with smiles, laughter and fun as you possibly can?

3. Live with authenticity and purpose. Every day, we are bombarded with advertisements, news articles, films and songs that give us a view of the world, of what we should look like, feel like, act like, of what will make us happy, of what is right and wrong. The advertising executive wants you to believe that all these external factors will make you happy because that's how he'll sell you the latest gadget. He doesn't want you to even consider the possibility that you already have everything you need to be completely happy already. To live with a true sense of purpose is actually very easy. Don't set any goals based on external factors, what people tell you SHOULD want or that this famous person has. Simply look inside yourself at what makes you actually happy. What are your actual desires? What kind of work would you love so much that you'd do it for free, or even pay to do it? What kind of environment do you like being in that makes you feel comfortable and calm? What kind of people excite you and engage you? Once you set your goals based on these questions, you don't need anyone to tell you any techniques, because you will already have the motivation to work hard and figure things out for yourself.

4. You already have all the tools you need to be happy, live authentically, engage with people and be successful. When you're in a playground with children who are 4 or 5 running around (a situation I find myself in a lot, as a professional paedophile), what you notice is that they will go up and connect with each other completely effortlessly, learn each other's names, play with each other, and become friends in 10 minutes. It's only after years and years of social conditioning "don't talk to strangers" "don't trust people you don't know" "people of religion X are crazy" "people of X colour are violent" that we start to become closed off to normal, healthy, social interaction. You don't need to learn ANYTHING about how to talk to anyone, you just need to UNLEARN all the negative social programming that comes from the external world and just allow your natural innate desire to connect with people to drive you from the inside.

_________________
SEX Technique Material http://bit.ly/iFdky0

FREE PDF w Openers, Date ideas and Videos on Direct: http://www.sashapua.com


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:00 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict

Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:47 pm
Posts: 253
Location: london, essex
amazing post mate and inspirational in many ways. i have to ask though when do you think of this stuff ? are you just sitting on a train and have a eureka moment ?

by the way this single line turnt my shitty day around
Quote:
When you're in a playground with children who are 4 or 5 running around (a situation I find myself in a lot, as a professional paedophile).
so thanks for that lol

_________________
Seize the day


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:55 pm 
Offline
Dedicated Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:20 am
Posts: 568
"I'm sorry I wrote you such a long letter. I had no time to write you a short one."

You could take this quote to heart... As for the rest of what you said, I'll just edit this post when I actually have the time to read it all.

_________________
Don't hate, just dominate.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:19 pm 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:35 pm
Posts: 2091
Website: http://www.sashapua.com
Location: London
Quote:
I'll just edit this post when I actually have the time to read it all.
You also wait to reply until you've read it, saving us and you some time ;-)

_________________
SEX Technique Material http://bit.ly/iFdky0

FREE PDF w Openers, Date ideas and Videos on Direct: http://www.sashapua.com


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:03 pm 
Offline
Dedicated Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 2:38 pm
Posts: 520
I've heard or seen about this mindset before.

Although you have many good points, based on real philosophical work, however, you should not forget that many of sentiments you call negative have a function.

I am learning it for my sociology class. Erving Goffman is an interesting sociologist, who came with the term "frame", just as William Thomas, who came with the Thomas theorem: "If men define situations as real, they're real in the consequences."

Nevertheless, society is formed and tied together by "social facts" (Durkheim), and social facts are born out of other social facts, like a suicide wave across the country might be the result of an economic crisis or boom which leads to dissorder in society.

Embarrassement, awkward moments, sadness, anomology, hapiness ,... these are all things that are necessairy. These are also social facts: our brain is programmed not to give these emotions away for free, but as a result of something what happened, a social fact. Thus, your emotions being effected by external factors, it has a function. It's a kind of instinct that keep people, and thus society, together.

If we could achieve emotions by internal factors and thinking only, then we wouldn't think of getting women anymore, because we would be happy by ourselfs.
See the danger? We must be influenced by external factors in order to function. For ourselfs, if we could make ourself happy, then we'd screw everything. We wouldn't care having no money, no house, no clothes, no health assurence. Even more dangerous, if everyone would think that way, there would be no social order and society would collaps.

It's like boxing. It's easier to fight on if you don't feel pain when receiving a blow. However, it's dangerous walking around with broken nose, ribs, damaged lungs, high blood pressure, etc. while feeling nothing.

Same goes with pick up. We need to feel rejected, we need to feel pain due to external factors in order to grow and become succesfull.


(It might sound a bit extreme. I've got a hard sociology exam thursday so see this as a little practice ;), but you'll get my point nonetheless.)

_________________
You WANT to make a change.
You CAN make a change.
You WILL make a change.

Ambitious to be succesfull => Shyler


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:54 am 
Offline
New to MPUA Forum

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:41 pm
Posts: 13
This is good. I like to create internal power and happiness with my muscles without external bad things like steroids. Of course I create muscles for me because this is my view so I know I am happy. Natural and internal. Sometimes, I like to think I have bigger muscles than reality because then I am more happy. So I know I can control my mind.

Women are not like us. They say that they make fake tits for their happiness but they probably lie. They just like when we squeeze them and enjoy them. Some women like to say they are happy without big tits because they can make happiness with control mind but I know this is not true because they have no tits for us to squeeze.

I am so happy right now! Thank you.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:59 pm 
Offline
Moderator Emeritus
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:35 pm
Posts: 2091
Website: http://www.sashapua.com
Location: London
Quote:
If we could achieve emotions by internal factors and thinking only, then we wouldn't think of getting women anymore, because we would be happy by ourselfs.
See the danger? We must be influenced by external factors in order to function. For ourselfs, if we could make ourself happy, then we'd screw everything. We wouldn't care having no money, no house, no clothes, no health assurence. Even more dangerous, if everyone would think that way, there would be no social order and society would collaps.

It's like boxing. It's easier to fight on if you don't feel pain when receiving a blow. However, it's dangerous walking around with broken nose, ribs, damaged lungs, high blood pressure, etc. while feeling nothing.
This actually came up in the seminar I went to that inspired this post. Somebody asked the reasonable question "But if we become totally happy with ourselves to the point that no external factors matter to us, then won't we lose the motivation to try and succeed, make money, build relationships, etc?"

The answer is no, you don't.

Even when the greatest leaders, businessmen, and entrepreneurs have all the money they can ever want, do they stop creating? No, they set new goals for themselves and strive to achieve them, whether it be a new business venture, philanthropy, or raising a family.

The point about having inner well-being and clarity is not that you just say "well I'm happy with myself, so the facts that my bills are late and my girlfriend is cheating on me and I might lose my job don't matter and I'll just ignore them."

The point is to go through life with a sense that the only thing that can make you happy is yourself. When you set any goals, they will be goals that come authentically from you and your own desires, not because you are being told by outside influences that these are things you need or want or must have.

If you are going out and picking up women, do so because you actually love women, you want to be around them, you want to excite and thrill them, and you want to make a real connection and be with them (INSIDE --> OUT motivation). DON'T do it because a bunch of self-proclaimed gurus make it seem like if you don't bang 3 blonde strippers every night you are some kind of failure and need their products to stop being an AFC (OUTSIDE --> IN motivation). Your motivation is then simply to make a connection because you WANT to, and progress the interaction towards what you desire (whether that be one night of sex or a long relationship). It is NOT doing tricks or to "raise your value" or fake "social proof" or dress because you've heard it looks cool, i.e. SEEK VALIDATION FROM OTHERS.

You still will have motivation, but the motivation comes from within you, from a place of clarity and inner well-being. When you set your goals in this way, then the feeling of achieving them is so much more lasting and fulfilling, and the slip ups and failures that inevitably occur along the way seem all the more fleeting and unimportant.

As for the boxing thing, it's not quite right. Firstly, pain is an incredibly important tool for us to know when we've been hurt, where, how much, and what to do about it. If we completely got rid of pain we would ignore potentially life-threatening injuries and could die. Even assuming the worst possible external circumstances - the worst embarrassment, or being locked up, or failing miserably, or losing your home and your family - these things will not kill you AND you still have the free will to decide to keep a positive frame of mind.

Secondly, I am NOT saying IGNORE external factors completely. Along the way to learning and becoming successful, we will all make many mistakes and we have to be able to notice when we fail and learn to not fail in that same way again. However we can either deal with each failure along that journey by being miserable, lamenting our terrible luck, telling ourselves we're stupid and pathetic and we can never succeed, or we can say "oh that didn't work, alright let's try this instead." What do you think is healthier?

A drug addict, after years of taking heroin, for example, will alter their brain chemistry so that their neurons actually adapt and change to physically need the presence of the drug in order to function. Without a constant supply, they are miserable, and only with it can they be in a "normal" state. Their entire life becomes devoted to seeking the drug, at all costs. Society does this every day to children as soon as they are born, and the drug is called VALIDATION.

_________________
SEX Technique Material http://bit.ly/iFdky0

FREE PDF w Openers, Date ideas and Videos on Direct: http://www.sashapua.com


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:47 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:58 am
Posts: 236
Quote:
A drug addict, after years of taking heroin, for example, will alter their brain chemistry so that their neurons actually adapt and change to physically need the presence of the drug in order to function. Without a constant supply, they are miserable, and only with it can they be in a "normal" state. Their entire life becomes devoted to seeking the drug, at all costs. Society does this every day to children as soon as they are born, and the drug is called VALIDATION.
Perfect.
Once we break free from validation happiness is only the beholders choice.
Needing validation is something hard to feel till you dont need it anymore and you'll know when you dont, you can feel the need leaving you.

It felt like your strapped down and once your free its like you can move around and dance.

_________________
Inner game is the core, outer game is just an expression of it


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:33 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Zealot

Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:53 pm
Posts: 406
Location: England
im not sure if i have enough experience to put in my 2cents but i think everyone strives for external references, successes and you can only be happy in yourself to go and get that reference, success story or whatever.

rather than being depressed and just thinking or making floppy, aimless attempts to go do it.

or can do it but they always have to bring it up and point it out every 5seconds.

be happy enough with yourself sure but im pretty sure humans are designed not to be truly happy.

didnt someone say "the pursuit of happiness"?. tales of incompleteness have been around since man could speak (maybe i havent got proof on this :P)

Hobbit, ive heard you mention Eckhart Tolle a few times. whats wrong with it? (unless i misinterpreted)

_________________
"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:08 am 
Offline
MPUA Forum Zealot

Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:53 pm
Posts: 406
Location: England
Quote:
Quote:
im not sure if i have enough experience to put in my 2cents but i think everyone strives for external references, successes and you can only be happy in yourself to go and get that reference, success story or whatever.

rather than being depressed and just thinking or making floppy, aimless attempts to go do it.

or can do it but they always have to bring it up and point it out every 5seconds.

be happy enough with yourself sure but im pretty sure humans are designed not to be truly happy.

didnt someone say "the pursuit of happiness"?. tales of incompleteness have been around since man could speak (maybe i havent got proof on this :P)

Hobbit, ive heard you mention Eckhart Tolle a few times. whats wrong with it? (unless i misinterpreted)
Nothing wrong with him. It's more of the way his followers in PUA act and give advice based on his stuff. Go to the RSD forums to see exactly what I mean. I actually thought the stuff was okay (a little too new-agey). But people take it and run with it like a retard kid waving a flag around.
ahh i get ya, people who just give advice without them putting any personal interpretation or experience into it.

just retelling books weve all read.

_________________
"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:42 pm 
Offline
New to MPUA Forum

Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:28 am
Posts: 19
This was an amazing post. Thank you.


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:00 am 
Offline
MPUA Forum Zealot

Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:42 am
Posts: 427
Couldn't agree more about unlearning all the BS we have learned. I, as many others, need to do so.

Really off topic, but, when growing out your hair are you supposed to get it trimmed every now and then, Sasha?

Good post again lol

EDIT: FUAAAAAAAAAARKRKKKKK MAD SICK POST BRAH



Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link