Yes. Yes my journal.







My Journey into “Pick Up”.


Hello ! I am Joeschmo, I recently signed up to the forums in an attempt to improve my life and learn a lot about pick up.
I'd like to type up a few things and let you know about me.

What brings you here ?

Like anyone else I'm here to improve my skills with women. I'm sure we all have our sticking points and fail in certain areas. I'm not totally sure what mines is just yet but I can say one thing, I definitely don't have much of a problem talking to females.
I've realize it's a great deal easier “opening” a female when you know what you want to say or have an idea of what you want to say.
It's practically eliminated AA for me, if I know what I'm going to say I just go and say it but that's off topic for the question at hand. I'm here to improve with women.

How long have you known about the community ?

To be honest I've only known about the community for a month or so now.
I really got into it because I have a major interest in improving myself in another way.
And that is getting physically, I have no idea if it is against the rules but I'll link to the threads that directly inspired me to check out “pick up”. Threads I have either finished or are currently still reading because they inspire me.

Link #1 : http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthrea ... =112506891
Passing down information from a guy whose practically a legend on the website.
His name is “Saucehead” and he still posts from time to time but it seems he's done dropping teaching material. I haven't read the entire thing but there is some good stuff.

Link #2 : http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=657354

This threads locked but it's another fantastic thread.
It doesn't deal so much with what to do (though there is stuff in there like that) but more to do with this guys transformation.
It's a story that's interesting and he tells it pretty good, though throughout the thread you'll realize his story is on going.
He also still posts though you won't see much involving PUA from him.

What do you hope to accomplish with this Journal ?

Well I'm hoping to build up a list of accomplishments and failures I can look back on.
Something that can spur me forward and help to educate me since for the most part I'll be going
it alone. Also I'd like anyone who knows more than I do to educate me, so if I misuse some PUA terminology or if I type out a conversation and you see something that could have helped me out let me know.


What do you want to change about yourself ?

This is something I ask myself often. Before I might have said something purely superficial like my looks or how much money I had. Those things don't matter much to me anymore and I'm finding they don't matter much to people. Besides I'm not a very ugly guy anyways. Lol.
I really want to be “That guy” that's what I want to do. I just want to be more appealing,able to hold better conversations, and have lots of friends or girls.
I mean I really want to build a nice sized circle of friends and contacts.
I don't want to be that person anymore who sits alone on friday/saturday nights asking the “That guy” how his night went. Even though I do know how it went, it was most likely awesome.


What do you like about yourself ?

I like that I'm open and always aiming to absorb information usually with the aim to improve myself.
I also like that I'm multi-talented, I can play instruments,sing,draw things like that interest me and seem to help with the ladies. Lol.

Prior Experience With Women ?

Well my experience with women I would say I'm limited. In highschool I didn't talk to many girls until about my junior year. Now when I say “I didn't talk to many girls”, I don't mean I didn't talk to females at all I mean I didn't talk these conversations were usually just more grounded in the realm of being “friends”. I had loads of female friends but no girlfriends. Things sort of changed once I reached my junior year. It was a time where I had this weird things with confidence. It wasn't that inner confidence we're all searching for but more like something built off of what other people thought of me.

I always worried about what the next person thought instead of what I thought of myself.
And I think this lead to me not doing things that would have helped me tremendously with girls in highschool.

One thing that did change though was girls started showing me interest, despite being overweight and dressing horribly I got a few. That was when my eyes were opened but before all of that I had a friend who really made me go and talk to girls. I think without him I'd be much worse off than I currently am.
I'm at a point where I'm not scared to talk to girls but I have no idea when I'm doing well.
Wait let me explain that, what I say “doing well” I don't mean in the social/friend sense I mean I know when I'm messing up and when I'm not. I mean more in the attraction since I have no idea if I'm building attraction or if I'm able to notice that I'm making her feel a certain way.
Some girls are direct with it most just don't say a thing and rely on subtle hints things that usually go over my head, but I'm working on it.


So there you have it.
I can elaborate more in later posts but this is what I've typed up about myself so far.

Field Reports :

Now I'll be honest, I truly have no idea what really constitutes as a field report. Right now I'm just trying my best to be more outgoing and friendly. So this leads me to talking to random people,complimenting cash register girls and in general appearing more friendly.
With that said here are some things that I have done in the past two weeks.

In the first week I didn't do much, but reading a little bit about “openers” and not being afraid to talk I just went ahead and did it.

There was one girl, I walked past her and saw her reading a comic book. I instantly thought of a situation opener.
Walking past her I told myself,”You can do this bro ! You can do this man it'll be easy ! Sure you haven't talked to a live stranger in this way for two years but you can handle it”.

I reached my destination, my aunts vehicle popping open the trunk I placed my things inside and gathered myself. Now I felt a bit of this thing described as “Approach Anxiety”, but I didn't feel a crippling fear. It was more like a slight turning of the stomach sort of how you feel when you walk into a room for the first time and everyone is eyeing you.

Anyways I walked past her and when I came near her it was sort of at an angle. I remember reading you don't want to walk directly up to them. So I walk past stop turn and ask,”Hey is that a comic book ?”. Now at this point I'm expecting a “Yeah and ?”, but what I got totally wasn't what I expected.

Her face lit up and she replied,”Yes. Yes it is !”. Seeming almost happy someone decided to talk to her.
I kept the conversation going by asking her what was it about, she nodded her head and showed me the cover. It was about “Captain America” a marvel comic, this made talking to her a trillion times easier.
I knew of Marvel because I'm a marvel fan, not a fanboy or some hardcore fanatic but I'm familiar with the material.


Seeing this I replied,”Nice ! Captain America. I'm a fan of Marvel myself. What are your favorite characters ? “. And with the same excitement she showed me before she raddled off the names of her favorite characters even saying she liked both D.C. And Marvel. It was going great so I decided to get her name.

I said,”Well I don't want to come off as weird so what's your name ?” , whilst sticking my hand out.

Looking up to me she smiled and said,”My name is Megan !”, then she shook my hand.

*Can't recall her name and I probably won't put their actual names in here. Lol.

We talked a little longer but because I didn't want to run out of things to say I ended the conversation and ejected.

Near the end of the conversation looking back I really wish I would have gotten her facebook or something. I mean she was cute and into comic books . That's rare enough as it is, and she was reading an American comic book !


This past week :

10/24/10 – 10/30/10


Now in this last week I've really delved in and decided to really learn some things.
I've gotten “Mystery Methhod” by Mystery, The “Gunwith Method” by Gunwitch and “Pandora's Box” by Vin Di Carlo.

Now I also have some other material 60YOC , Paul Janka, and Gambler but I haven't really checked it out not even a passing glance.
If you have any other guru's or suggestions for Gambler I'm all up for it.
Because to be honest I only really have “Stealth Attraction”.

Now onto the girls.

In this past week I did what I never thought I would be able to do. Get not one ! Not Two ! But THREE face books. Now I'm sure you guys who are used to getting numbers an all that are thinking,”Okay. So what ? You got a facebook whoopty do !”. This is something I would normally refrain from because I'm not sure if you're supposed to ask for it. Though to me it seems most girls have no problem giving up an E-mail or facebook at least over a number.



Girl #1

Well I was riding high off of last weeks “success”, sure I didn't get a date going or anything but I talked to a girl. Baby steps my friends baby steps.

This again took place right after my class, I was going into the school to get some money out of an SPAM.
And upon opening the door I noticed something it said “Automatic Warning”. Thinking this door would just swing open I stood there a good ten seconds. Feeling like an idiot I opened the door and saw a cute girl. She was sitting there studying almost seemed alone, just seemed ripe for an approach to build a conversation with.

So I walked past thinking,”Okay you can do this. This should be easy.” Standing in front of the SPAM I punched in my numbers each time telling myself,”One life to live, learn now or never learn”.

I walked back down the hall thinking,”This should be a piece of cake I already have something to ask her”. I walked out of the wall way with my game face on. Turned to her said,”Excuse me do you have any idea why these doors are labeled automatic ?”.

She seemed caught off guard, a little stunned and proceeded to give me her thoughts on the matter.
“Well I think it says that because there maybe some sort of button the handicapped can press, well at least that's what I think or maybe it's there for no reason at all ?”, She said.

I smiled and said,”Yeah I stood out there for a good ten seconds totally unsure of what to do. I mean I literally was afraid it'd swing open and smack me in the face”.
This “situational opener” proved to be golden. Allowed me to build some jokes off of it and really made her comfortable. Felt like I was her friend in a few seconds as if we'd been taking classes together or something.

I saw the book she was reading and decided to ask. “Nice what class are you studying for ?”, she replied with,” I'm studying for political science”.

“Political Science !”, I thought, this might be easier than I thought.
I continued with some small conversation and got her name but before I left I told her,”You know you're pretty cool. I'm going to get out of here but do you think I can get your facebook ?”

Her face lit up again, she had a huge smile, literally put me at ease I was expecting a “No”.
But nope ! She told me,”Well my names pretty unique I'm sure you'll find me !”.

Boom ! Girl #1 total confidence boost.


Girl # 2

This one was easy really, I had gotten her name prior to this week because we had class together. She was apart of me being “More social” so I just started the conversation about a show called “Jersey Shore”. She seems to be a pretty big fan of it, I then said,”You know I like these conversations an all but do you have a facebook ?”.
Again she seemed happy to have someone asking if she had one. Gave it to me without a second thought . I then complimented her on her wonderful eyes and left class.
That one was also smooth what was funny was another guy had been hounding her for weeks to get the facebook and I got it on our second conversation.
It stunned him so much he had to comment on it,”You're pretty good brother. Took me forever to get her facebook”.


Girl #3

Now this girl. Man I have just no explanation for this one. I did what I normally do, walk past her, scope her out, see if she has anything interesting on her (books,jewelry,shirts stuff of that sort) then I ask her about it and start a conversation.
Now this girl is cute, I mean really cute in my opinion, like that sort of all encompassing cute that if you were to show her to your friends they'd understand.
But me being me I wasn't intimidated in fact I was actually pretty damn happy to see a cute girl alone in this place of all places. This place being a courthouse, I know you're probably thinking,”Joe why are you at a courthouse talking to chicks ?”, that's another story for another time friend.

Anyways I saw her, she was sitting down reading a bible appearing as if she was worried about something. I immediately thought out what I was going to say,” Okay we'll open with a question. After that we'll ask who needs a prayer ? Then I'll build some basic conversation and move in for the information”.

I went to the bathroom because I had to take a whiz didn't want to be all fidgety trying to talk to her.
In the bathroom I went over what I wanted to say with the usual,”You can do this bro” and I walked out ready to work.

I walked past her turned and immediately asked,”Hey what are you reading there ?”.
Within those first few seconds I knew something was off, she seemed a little crazy.
Yes crazy we'll go with that, anyways after asking that she sniffed her nose and with a shaky voice said,”The bible”. Thinking,”Holy crap it's playing out as I expected”, I replied with “Oh who needs a prayer ?”.

Now this is where EVERYHING fell apart. I mean it really just went to crap after that.
She totally broke down, she went from being like someone who had just had a good cry to totally zoning out. Her pupils dilated, she stared off into space and started spouting stuff about her ex boyfriend and her situation. She told me,”Me. I need the prayer. I'm here to see the judge because my boyfriend has me here for stalking, I had to goto Jail and I had to do O and R. I had to....” blah blah blah. All of this faded into being unintelligible for a few seconds, see I went into myself because I was thinking,”Oh dayummmm. Oh dayummmm this chick is off her rocker. She is totally nuts. Okay okay Joe just finish this and get the facebook you can do it.”

I then said,”What is O and R?” half-heartedly of course because at this point I didn't even want to talk.
So I just ended it by saying,”Well aye you seem pretty interesting but my aunt probably wants me to come back think I can get your facebook ?”

She smiled and calmed down,wiping her eyes she said,”Sure” in a cracking voice.
Then she proceeded to go on about her ex boyfriend again,”Oh and I can't give you my number or cell phone number because that jerk took everything from me. He took everything.....” she said almost seeming to go into another fit.
I took the email she wrote down and immediately got the hell out of there.


Well that's my three little field reports.
I hope to add more ! And please tell me if I'm writing to much, my posts from here on out shouldn't be too long winded this is really just my introduction and catching you guys up on my situation.
Also don't hesitate to correct me if I have horrible grammar or punctuation in areas.

Well so far this weeks been a bust.
I've only truly opened one woman, the other could hardly speak english. I think this has to do with my botched energy levels. I have a hard time motivating talking to anyone male or femle when I'm tired.
I need to get my sleep back on track that's one of my goals for the next week.

The next goal being finishing the material I have, I think have more than enough material at the moment I just need to educate myself. I don't know many “Techniques” beyond opening and maintaining a nice little conversation. I think I need to not only learn the PUA vocabulary but I need to get some theories under my belt and try them out in “the field”

I'm going to keep trying to find girls to talk to though. Tired or not I need to keep going.

This is nice, would suggest keeping the posts a bit shorter because the forst one was extremely long.

Ona positive note, its great you're getting to be more social and talking to people, i'm at the same point right now and its good to see another's experience.

Also, how old are you, just curious. (idk if it was in your post but i may have missed it)

yeah I think the intro was mad long lol I need to remember to keep the posts short and to the point. As for my age I'm 19 but turn 20 in two weeks.

And yeah I think being more sociable will just lead to me naturally talking to more females. It always sucks starting over and making friends but having been alone for two years I think it's a lot better than being a loner.

I'm back !
The past week and a half I've been sick and really busy with school work.
But I haven't lost my resolve ! I'm going to cut off for the next week as far as getting more information to learn from.
I'll be reading this forum,so suave and the MASF forums alongside the material I've acquired since I think there is a great deal of stuff to be learned.
I originally thought I could sit down every night for two weeks and just absorb the information but now that just seems incredibly unlikely so now I'm switching my approach.


I'll learn when I have time and apply it in my life.

With that said I've met three women this week, two at school and one older woman that I messed up with tremendously.


The two at school were pretty easy to open,generally receptive they both smiled and I got their names I wasn't trying to get their numbers/facebooks I'm just randomly opening girls I find interesting to get used to talking to strangers

Today I approached the first woman I'd consider an “HB9”.
Now this woman was gorgeous from head to toe but she had a bunch of kids with her.
I have no idea whether not they're her kids but when I approached I had no anxiety whatsoever.
My heart raced a little bit because I didn't think of anything before hand and I think this is what messed me up..

I came over and said,”Hi !”.
Mind you this was after I had walked by and ALREADY SAID HI so I think that's points taken.
Not thinking of course after my little “Hi” I instantly proceeded to ask her name.
She was very apprehensive at first.
She basically said,”why.......” in an almost utterly confused tone.

I brought her back to reality and basically the dropped whatever shield she had up with a compliment.
It's funny because when I came over she was frowning as if she didn't want to be opened by the time I was walking away she had a massive smile.

Anyways she stopped being so defensive when I moved into a compliment simply stating,”well I came over because I thought you were pretty. Literally absolutely gorgeous”.

I felt the situation change drastically she became much easier to talk to and she was willing to shake my hand.
My problem here is I had NO IDEA what to do after her guard dropped so I just told her,”Well I'll see you around !” and ejected.
On top of that I think she gave me a fake name.

Oh well I'll chalk that one up as a loss but a massive learning experience.
Again this is me approaching without any learned game, I'm just going off of my massive amounts of confidence right now.
And to be honest it doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere lol and this is why I'm get material from guru's.

Also I thought I was pretty confident until I listened to Tyler Durdens first four hours of the blueprint.
A lot of it is inline with what I already think but there were some great surprises in there !
Glad I found this community so I can get this part of my life worked out.

Hey !
I'm back !
Been a week or so and I haven't had the chance to get back into the whole meeting females swing of things.
With that said I've just been chatting up girls here and there. Got a couple names didn't close for their information sadly.
I finally talked to a girl I've been meaning to talk to for the longest I'll call her “HBArtChick”.
She's absolutely gorgeous,blonde hair, hazel eyes, nice height,slim like definitely a high 8 practically a 9.
Now from the first day of class this girl has been an enigma. She leaves class early, comes late, and rarely if ever leaves the class during our break.
So basically if you're going strike up conversation with her you have to do it smoothly at least that's how I view it.
So today my day finally came, I knew it was coming because :
1. She was sitting right next to me.
2. I'd been queing up conversation topics since they say I saw her.
3. I'd practiced all the previous weeks on other strangers. In all I've met about 15 girls, I may be off lol but I'm proud of myself like 10 weeks ago I hadn't talked to any new people.
Well anyways it came around art break time, she'd been checking out my drawing since the beginning of class. So I decided to chat her up, have no idea if this is was an “IOI” but she ALWAYS seemed to glance back at me.

I simply opened complenting her artwork, she was incredibly kind despite how she always keeps to herself and generally seem disinterested in talking to anyone.
Learned a little about her mother nurses profession,her interest in art, and sadly that she has a boyfriend.
School will be out in a week or two so I'm going to get her facebook I'll be good with that !

On top of that I've been learning more information about getting into shape. I figured if I want to be a ladies man I need to get in shape and no this isn't because I believe girls like a fit man. It's because I figured I'll perform a great deal better if I was slimmer on top of improving my fashion game.
I've added some fashion/forums/deals to my favorites and I've been reading those too.
Though it definitely seems more apparent that I'll need a job to supplement all of this.
I haven't been on the forums lately because it's been school or pua and of course school is what I currently have to choose.

I have taken the time to learn what I can with my freetime but I'm a natural procastinator and I can't excuse the fact I've wasted large amounts of time I could've spent learning looking up cheap entertainment online.

So my goal for the rest of this week and leading into the next is take what time I can to learn more PUA material. Take more time out for studying school and try to get HB Art chicks facebook or number I'll take either lol.
Cheeaaaa