No, it was fine. Once you establish being an alpha male, you can let some things fly. It adds to the whole balance thing so the flow is smooth.

What would you tell a kid who tells you that 2 + 2 = 5 and thus 2 + 4 must equal 7? What you just wrote above is utter nonsense. This is why I suggested you STOP trying to rationalize pick up situations and simply do as told. You're pretty clever and in many ways, this is working against you. A dummy would have nodded, "Uh huh" and would have stuck to script. You simply continued to live in your World of fantasy thoughts. Ask yourself what your 'pick up logic' has gotten you so far . . .


Actually I did. I didn't realize I was supposed ask her. I stated my concern with DLV on this originally. This is where it went wrong and the planning i did veered off course. It's a mis-communication here.

It's not like I read, "The next time you see her turn that coffee thing into a date" and just ditched the idea. I didn't know I was supposed to do this.

also, I understand your approach on advice, but some of the remarks in the last post weren't necessary. I get the emphasis on getting out of the mindset im in, but don't over do it.

^ You didn't whine, bitch, and call some random girl a derogatory name because it was necessary or unnecessary. You just did all these things because to you, in your little fantasy World, this is reality; you simply wrote what is to you, exactly as things are. I wrote what is to me, exactly as things are. "Necessity" has nothing to do with it.

Either way, she played you, and at this stage your out...

your best bet is to freeze out, and be congenial, yet distant, and super alpha around her, but you're out. So don't initiate conversation, or even be overly friendly, or flirty at all. She crossed you, so she doesn't deserve your company.

but yeah, she's not a bitch, she's not evil. she just played you. and now you've gotta suck it up and move on

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As a PUA, you must leave the girl better off than when you found her

"yeah its the process, not the girl." or something like that. It's funny how a little gesture like what Ive fallen for would be the same thing as if a girl asked you to buy a drink.

i've been brought up to be ultra polite and considerate aka the "nice guy" syndrome. Don't get me wrong I know I look like an alpha, hell friends have asked me why I dont get girls more often. But, I do stupid small things like apologize when there isn't a need, etc, etc. I realize these are good things when IN the relationship, not so much when building attraction. Edit: some of what I do, not so much the apologizing thing.

Be alpha, maintain distance, movin on.

you know what i heard here:
her: i'm supposed to be doing that quiz tmz; cant really be bothered to go in tho (and i'm not even bothered, its not like its important or anything, i'm going to be doing something much more important like staying in bed)
you: i could do it for you if you want lol (plz plz let me let me?)
her: yh guess..if you want....(whatever floats your boat?)
you:what wud be in it for me if did? (tell me what you wud give me, go on throw me a bone, any bone i'd love to go fetch it)
her:errrm..i dunno....coffee?? (30p coffee out of the vending machine lol)

hey maybe i'm wrong here, i'm a girl so what do i know

if not, i think blondguy had some really good advice, he usually seems to for any occasion

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James: "Cheer up. Remember what the Monty Python boys say."
Helen: "Always look on the bright side of life"?
James: No, "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."

One of the funniest posts I have read in this forum. But I concur.

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Haha yeah i did think about how the situation came off and came to a similar conclusion. The only thing is I initially said "what's in it for me?" when she asked but that seems like a spot on interpretation. ANother thing was this 'talk' was online so I couldn't see her reactions and couldn't express mine.

FUNNY THING though. Today, I decided - think alpha, bring in what the peeps in the forum say and fucking stick to it. I kept my energy low, usually im pretty high energy... very chill. I also upped my dress, and what not -usually im a plain tee jeans guy. I'm fit so I can pull it off. I sat somewhat in front of said, now, "non-target"(usually our group sits together but there wasn't any other seat available 'fortunately') and chatted up the girl next to me. I personally didn't find her all that attractive she'd probably be like a 6-ish, but I just wanted to practice openers/other techniques.

So then,

after class, she comes up to me and, as I was leaving, stands right in front of me, says something about the coffee while trying to be witty or some shit and, literally, right in the middle of what she was saying I gave this vibe of "what are you talking about?" while simultaneously sidestepping her and up to the professor to talk to him about something like I had shit to do and not stick around to talk to her about that.

OMG I was on a high. I have to meet the group again tomorrow but im going to maintain the whole 'alpha vibe.' There's a small part of me that actively wants to pursue this but imma stick to my guns and go with the tips I got in this thread. Maintaining the positive energy, yet not pay attention to her, etc.

How'd I do here guys?

All you did was what comes easy to you,(YOU did JACK SHIT) then you yanked pick up lingo out of thin air and applied it to your 'jack shit' to make yourself feel better about yourself. Really? You really feel THAT GREAT about looking like a nervous bumbling forgetful fool or worse, a bumbling fool who pretends to forget? Don't you think there's any chance that she knows that you were praying, praying, praying for a 'coffee' with her?

I will write this only one more time in your thread. I've already told you this over, over, and over again. YOU DO NOT KNOW PICK UP. Do not think, do not make excuses. Do not justify. You are one crazy-ass self-cock blocking son of a bitch!

The advice was to TURN THE COFFEE INTO A DATE.

Look, I know this isn't going to be easy for you. I know you might stutter, shake, say something little differently from script, etc . . . Yeah, the goal is to get this girl but realistically, you'll most likely fuck it up. The real goal is to at least TRY 1 little fucking thing that remotely resembles pick up. Just try it. After wards, if you have to barf or piss in your pants then so be it.

You're existence is a cycle of non-action followed by creative excuses that seem plausible enough for you to believe in. If fantasies could suck cock, you'd be the man . . .