I'm just curious if you'd lie to a girl saying you're looking a relationship and would consider dating her just to get her into bed?

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Since I only try to game girls who have a personality I would say that I would consider dating, but I guess that wouldn't be considered lying.

So no probably not since I've seen some girls who get attached to men who do that and it's fucked up.

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Never, under any circumstances. Anyone who would hasn't yet accumulated enough experience to realize that the inevitable fallout from such deception is at least 3129380129380123 percent worse than never getting laid again.

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Nope, usually it's a mutual agreement or none at all.

Basically every PUA has lied to a woman to get in her pants at some point of his pick up career. (Remember the last time you got laid by using a canned opener in the first place?)



Would I lie to a woman to get in her pants? It depends on the kind of girl I'm gaming. If the girl is very emotional and sensitive, thus if she can easily be hurt, then I wouldn't do it and let her go. My conscience just can't take it. Besides I can't have a woman crying over me and saying "That bastard! He lied to me!"

But if it is some kind of stuck up bitch who doesn't respect men and thinks more of herself than she is really worth, then I bring out the heavy artillery altough I don't really have to do it.

I have no problem lying to women and faking commitment because, they have been doing that to men for years.

Sue me.

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Girls and guys lie to each other to get what they want all the time. Saying that I would not lie to a girl about wanting a relationship with her just to sleep with her. This is not to say I would not lie to her otherwise to sleep with her.

I'm in this situation right now.
Girl seems to want LTR, I want sex.

I'm giving some time to see if I like her for LTR, and I'll probably have to open up the truth.

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dont people lie anyways to get a girl into bed?? guys will agree with anything if they think thats gonna get them laid (yeah i love cats/dogs, yeah i love romantic comedies, no i dont like that bar either and so on......)

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I thought the usual stereotype of women is that they try to entrap men in commitment.

Funny that.

Definitely not. Managing expectations is key, and I try to avoid giving a reason to get pissed at me. Though especially with repeat customers, I will avoid that conversation as much as possible. Unless she'd be cool being FBs.

As for line-drawing, I am not as strict as some of you. True, I've used the false time-constraint but don't consider that lying. Lying to please her (I love cats, etc.) is a mistake anyway. She's supposed to qualify herself, not the other way around...

And Fixxer, that sounds a bit angry...hope it's not because your prom date acted up a few years back

I absolutely refuse to lie. Any so-called PUA that advocates doing so brings the community down and validates all the false stereotypes of PU being sleazy and manipulative.

If you think you have to lie about yourself in order to get a girl to like you, maybe you should spend some time improving yourself, set some goals, and build your self-esteem up. Then you can be completely comfortable telling her about who you are, where you're going and what you want with total authenticity, and get her intrigued and want to be a part of your world.

An MLTR of mine ended last week. I explained to her early on that I was not interested in an exclusive relationship. I could see she was an emotional and jealous person, so I said that we just wouldn't talk about what we did outside of seeing each other, and she had to accept that. Later I re-emphasised this and she asked if I was seeing anyone else. I said she shouldn't ask questions because it would just make her jealous, but she pushed and I said fine, you want to know? Yes I am seeing someone else right now, and she pushed about details and once she knew a bit of information, rather than just the vague idea that things weren't exclusive, the jealousy was too much for her and it ended. I could have lied and said there was nobody else, and we would probably still be together, but I'd rather have a relationship end knowing that I was always completely honest, then continue one based on lies.

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This is damn good advice (only improvement I could make is change "girl" to "someone")

agreed.

I'm trying to figure out where people even throw in lies, I dont see anywheres in pickup where lies come into place, unless people are counting false time constraints, negs, and other things of that nature.

I dont get the relationship question bc in the first 10min of the convo I've screened whether this girl is down for a SNL or is looking for potential LTR

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I'm just curious because this guy I'm friends with has a friend who told me he will DO and SAY anything to get women into bed. I mean it's understandable since I've know him my whole life and certain things he lies about, so it's hard to trust him. He keeps saying I'm gf material and would make me his gf if we dated...there are also times where he tells me about the girls he has hooked up and dated. "baby I'm not sure if you like me or not because you push me away everytime I try to kiss you"...

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Quite Insightful. Respect to blondguy and Madals.

And no way, I would never lie to a woman to get her into bed. It's immoral and gross.

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