Hi, I'm a newbie. I've read The Game and know some about Mystery.

From what I've seen so far, I get the impression that mPUA can get any girl they want, whether they're married or not. But this just doesn't seem possible. Nothing is near 100% success.

So even if one masters all the techniques and becomes a mPUA like Style or Mystery, what really is the success rate?

I just don't want to be too hard on myself unnecessarily should my success rate not be high.

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I've heard a mpua say that his success rate is 85% because he picks his girls extremely carefully and makes sure he gets eye contact before approaching.

She is single, you are single - you say you just want to fuck..... Don't bring it up.

What she does with other guys is non of your concern if you not wanting an exclusive relationship. As always though - dont be a fool and wrap your tool

If it does come up - just tease her about it. "He was pretty hot, I hope you got his number - I mean you seemed to be doing an ok job on your own but if you want me to put in a good word for you I can do that We should call him right now *grab her phone* then just playful wrestle for the phone and then make out*"

I had a one night stand with that girl 3 months ago, and since then we've only ever met among other friends from whom we wanted to keep our fling a secret, so I never again made a move on her.

Two weeks ago when I was out with her and others she isolated me and told me she'd still find me hot, but we were interrupted before we really got into a conversation. She invited me for lunch the following day in the uni cafeteria to continue the conversation, and then she told me she'd foremost regard me as a good friend, even if she still has the hots for me. I'm not actually sure how I came across to her during that convo, whether I appeared to be too clingy or if she thinks I wanted to LJBF her.

Anyway, since then several things happened, which leave me unsure how friend-zoned I am

- she games other guys in front of me
- she told me several times that i have a hot vibe, and i do notice her gawking at me sometimes when we're among others
- she started gaming one of my best friends behind my back - she already told me she'd find him sexually attractive after i had sex with her. (should i confront her about the behind my back thing? its not like i can forbid her to see other people, but i find this whole thing to be disrespectful. but neither do i want to portray jealousy.)
- she cried to me on the phone (i was the only one to cry for this particular problem tho, and she kept apologising and told me the next day that she regretted using me in such a way)

so yeah, is there actually a chance left to get into her pants again, or am I like totally friend zoned?
Should I just attempt to physically escalate next time i meet her and find out?

If you find it dis-respectful then say so. Respect your own values and she will respect you.

You have become a friend but there is still the option for it to be a friend with benefits. You need to keep the physical component there.

From the way your talking you sound like your giving her what she wants (attention and compliments) and ur not taking what you want. Make sense?

Hello,

So there is this girl and I think she is interested in me. But she has a boyfriend. And probably I am stuck in the friendzone by now.

Okay here's how it goes. I know her for about 1 month. I do judo in college and met her on the training session. And yeah she is pretty =) We constantly switch partners and I got paired up against her and I was rather impressed with her technique, then she introduced herself and I learned that she trained judo for quite a while. Sometime later I got her number, surprisingly found out that we share the same native language (not English) and that she plays guitar just as I do. While we were talking about the guitar she mentioned that she sings only for her boyfriend and I was like "you have a boyfriend?", she was like "well ... umm ... yeah".

We walk home together after the training. We had some sort of a date, cause I invited her to play some guitar in the park and turns out she doesnt play that good, so it ended up me playing and singing for her and she LOVED it. And the whole thing was like for 3-4 hours. There was a night out of our judo club and I ended up just chatting with her the whole night. Then we did the guitar thing AGAIN, but this time she also went to my dorm and helped me to apply the whole joker makeup for the Halloween ( she basically did the whole makeup, cause I know nothing about it and she did a great job xD). And like we were alone here in the whole apartment.

But she always ends up talking about her boyfriend. Once I invited her to the cinema and she refused, saying that her boyfriend wouldnt understand. Like playing guitar in the park, just the two of you is normal xD We still train together and text\IM each other a lot. At some point I was thinking she was making up the whole boyfriend thing. But no, she talks about him sometimes. Yeah and couple of times she was really emotional about her ex, asked me some questions about my past relationships.


So I was a little confused when it all started and now I am a friend. What should I do?

Should I try to make a move, cause we'll be playing guitar soon.

Or should I maybe ignore her for a while. I have a little one-week vacation opportunity and was planning to travel anyway. And then I think I can skip one week of trainings as well, see what happens.

I just dont know. I really like her.
But damn sometimes I feel so soft, I mean I dont wanna ruin her relationship cause I know I dont want anything serious with her anyway. Just some ethics.

Hey guys!

I've got a general problem with meeting up with girls. It'd be cool if you looked at this short thread of mine which pretty much shows my way of interacting via FB etc.

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I appreciate your time!

I opened like 5 sets yesterday at the club. 4 went well and i ended up with 2 hot girls. They knew that i was active. They danced bitch dance with dancefloor bar etc. In the end they left without saying anything when i said t that we have hotel afterparty. Wtf???

Hey guys how you doing? Maybe you can help me?

So I met this girl on a night out 3 weeks ago who is best friends with a girl that one of my best mates is shagging. I decided at the start of the night to make her my target but unfortunately whilst trying to not look overly interested, didn't show her enough attention and she ended up getting kiss closed by some random guy.

So same night we're in the taxi on the way back and I decide I may as well still try. So I neg her all the way back which got her quite intrigued but didn't manage to escalate to a k-close. So next day I add her on facebook and in a chat convo leave her my number. She texts next and the conversation remains jokey and lots of negging on my part. Now I have been careful not to over text and also tried to maintain in control to DHV and appear alpha however I have a sticking point with this one girl that it's always jokey and I can't seem to build rapport and attraction with her while texting (is this even possible?) however I know she is interested and there has been some IOI's.

Anyway so move on a week and she's organized for me her her mate and mate to go out, however this fell through due to illness and instead was rescheduled for this weekend just gone. Only difference, about 10 of us would be going out this time. So duringthe week building up to the nightout i occasionally text her just to jeep her attention..more joking and negging (please help with this!?). Sat night comes and we plan to meet in town. The club we go to meet them in, we don't get let in, so go to another close by and tell them to come. They insist we try again. We decide to remain alpha and pretend we're not bothered if they come or not..we say 'we'll see you when we see you then'.

They turn up at our club shortly after we leave to get food. They end up meeting us in the fast food outlet where I continue to net her but have good strong and long eye contact on the go. We get a taxi and just my luck she ends up in the front with the taxi driver where I can't touch her or and barely communicate. She starts using text on her phone screen in order to speak to me - so I play along. I get out at my stop unable to attempt a k-close cus of her position.

Now I feel that if all of these unfortunate circumstances hadn't occurred I would have k-closed plenty of times by now. But I need your help with how to handle this situation now... I've met her only twice in 3 weeks and been unable to k-close her although I feel the interest has been there. Now do you think it's game over or do you still think its on. Barring in mind I won't see her till this fri at an Xmas eve party and will only be able to text between now and then?

Also how can I shift the text chat from jokey small talk and negs to building rapport and attraction. This is not s usual sticking point for me it's just with this particular girl who seems to make everything one big joke?

Sorry for the length of this but I wanted to convey it accurately. Thanks inadvance for your opinions.

J

Hi!

So, im kinda an AFC, but I can easaly approach ugly girls or less pretty girls cause I know they "wont matter anyway". Just read the Anxiety Aproach-thread and I'll try it out.

But I'm qurious; when do you aproach girls? Im currently at high-school and to me it seems kinda od just randomly walking up to her while in the grocery-line or so..

Any tips?

so i am definately an AFC no doubt about it so i really need some help with this coffee dat i have coming up. im going out for coffee with a girl i havent seen or heard from in about 10 years.

Coffee dates always seem kind a cliche but im stuck with it now. so i was wondering if you could give me some tips how to game her leading into possible relationship in the future? or atleast into a second date where i could escalate?

This is something you have to figure out, it sounds like you blew your chances with this one, but regardless you have to make the decision here.

Maybe they considered you nothing more than fun?

Maybe you failed to close the deal?

Maybe, Maybe, Maybe...

There is too little info here to make any sense of what actually happened.

You need to get specefic, what did you actually do?

Hey, you wanna hang out?

*ramp up physical escalation and K close*

For someone trying to pull her your doing very little in the way of actually attempting to pull her.

High school is all about meta-game, or social circle game, huge amount of info out there on that subject, I know next to nothing about it. Go check up on that.

As for Cold approaching, book-shops, malls and pedestrian streets were my usual haunts when I couldn't go to bars.