Hi haven't been here for a while, got called to reserve army, came back already and back to the game

I wanted to share a point, I DO realize that this is a PUA forum and PU is what we do.
But I met with a few pf th local "Gurus" and some things really make me sick, first most of the students are under 20 years old. And what those seminars are doing to them is freaking disgusting. The fact that a 17 years old boy haven't kissed a girl yet, doesnt says he has some sort of a PROBLEM, doesn't mean he's psychologically damaged. You weren't a bad person before you started picking up girls.

Another point I wanted to share. Pick Up Girls is NOT a way of life, it's a set of skills that helps you to pick up girls, your life should not be built just around getting some pussy. off course sometimes it is. But not ALL of it.

Anyway, just 2 points I wanted to make

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

I agree and Disagree

Agree that you shouldnt constantly be picking up girls 24/7 and that some people arnet psychologicaly damaged they just havent had as much experience in life to be conditioned to be good with women .

Disagree with the fact that it isnt a way of life and that our life isnt around getting pussy........ but it is . I mean look at it . We go to school so we can learn . We learn to get a job , With a job we can spend money on clothes and essentials and eventually buy a house . With clothes and possesions and a house we can now provide for a family( thats just the basics).

Everything you do in life can somehow be related to getting pussy. And the forum and community can make us a better person. You keep adding desirable qualities to your character and that never leaves you , true some people take it too far but everyone should always constantly be working on inner game.

Being a pick up artist is a legit lifestyle as long as you genuinely like doing it.

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I can FIX ANYTHING!!!

17 and haven't been kissed is weird, and helping someone get their first kiss is a great thing to do.

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Even the most naturally gifted can learn to become better.

think about it, you spent 9 months trying to get out, and you spend the rest of your life trying to get back in.

seriously though, i think that PUA is all about self improvement. These skills arent just about women, it teaches you how to be a more social person, teaches you how to talk to people, how to listen to people better (body language, tone, words etc.) alot of the skills are specific to picking up women, but hey you should have hobbies and stuff too, something that YOU like to do just for the joy of it. its life. its all about balance.

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Most pickup artistry is just a misnomer to attract men by targeting their insecurities.

Having trouble with women?

Want to have sex with more women?

Lonely?

It's a marketing technique to trigger a man's emotions. Like in pickup, the goal in sales is to trigger emotion and validate with logic.

True "pickup" is about self improvement. It's about being the best person you can be. The women will come after.

I think this is spot on. To the extent we're talking about inner game, elementary psychology, and being alpha, PU skills apply everywhere in life. The same rules apply to social situations, job interviews, professional environments, etc. If you are confident, charismatic, and entertaining, you'll do well at i-banks, law firms, accounting firms, etc. (assuming you are competent). If you're beta, you won't get far.

Another point, a real PUA may not be consciously sarging 24/7, but he will seize on every opportunity that comes his way, whether he sees that perfect 10 at a club, a coffee shop, or during volunteer work at the soup kitchen. So guys, always be ready and not married to a specific time or place...

if youre a natural gamer, then its just about learning to be comfortable with yourself, obviously you learn how to be seductive, create sexual tension and be an alpha but to get like that you have to be comfortable with yourself

and also being those 3 things does make you pretty darn comfortable!

they do use lots of gimmicks to get people to join but i think its just to hook them in until they realise the bigger picture of what it is.

and that 17year old kid probably does want to get laid....bad


wait, no, he does. he'd suck a dick to get laid.

ive only met one guy in my life who genuinely doesnt care about sex.

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"You don't want girls to think you suck dick at fucking pussy"
-Seth (Superbad)

If your life is about chasing pussy, you'll start to notice that pussy seems to keep running away. We NOTICE that people with good game get a lot of pussy, but that is a side effect.

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The best PUA advice is also the best fighting advice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijCSu87 ... rn-1r-4-HM

PUA is not exactly about self improvement, PUA is about getting laid, self improvement might be something you do because you suddenly realize that if you practice you can get good at things

there is no such thing as a PUA lifestyle, chasing women is not a lifestyle
You can be EXTREMELY good with women, without it being the soul purpose of your being, in fact you become better if it's not

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"StreetLight!! Stop seeing every problem in life like it's a chick you didn't hit on!"

I think PUA is more about self improvement than anything. Isnt that what it is?
Going from AFC to PUA not only means getting girls (eventualy) but it means being *cool*. Being someone who people wanna be with. Having a magnetic personality. The girls come secondary for me. Ive been in "the game" for about 5 months now. Have yet to get laid or even go on a date ( I havnt really asked either). But I love what it has done for my self esteem and my social circle! I would like girls eventualy, and they will come in time. Its not like I *need* to get laid tommorow (although it would be a bounus).

For me PUA is a way of life. I live, eat, dream and sleep PUA. Even if its not trying to pick up girls. Im always trying to be alpha. To gain respect from my peers, co-workers, And even my teachers. I see social interaction in a whole new light and I love it, even if I dont fully understand it... yet.

In short, I dont think anyone can argue its not about self improvement at its core. Yes, its about getting girls. But you dont learn PUA becuase you are already good at it. You learn it becuase you think there is somthing you can *improve* on.

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17 Year old rAFC
My cockyness is prepotional to my awesomeness.
- The Dagger

PUA is a broad and general term that means different things to different people.

Personally I would say the "A" in PUA makes it about self-improvement. The painting is only as good as the artist, the symphony only as good as the composer, the routine only as good as the dancer, so why should an artistic work in pickup be any better than the PUA?

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Don't hate, just dominate.

I disagree. If you discard all the canned shit, magic gimmicks, and get down to the core, what you're left with is pure self-improvement. Yes, it gets you laid, but since most of it is simple psychology, it applies in every aspect of life. The specific manifestations can be with girls, peers, coworkers, bosses, clients, etc. You may only have one goal coming in, but if you focus on the core rather than the gimmicks, PUA is a lifestyle moreso than a cheap roadmap to pussy. As a disclaimer, I will say that I don't use a method, routine, or any of that. I only run natural game, since it makes the whole process more honest and frankly more fun.

I didn't kiss a girl until i was 18 and it doesn't really bother me. I have a very healthy relationship now because of PUA techniques and I got out of PUAing exactly what I wanted. I suppose I did "get pussy" because of what I learned but it wasn't about that for me. I was bad with girls socially when I started and now I'm not nearly as bad. PUA is not my lifestyle (but i suppose it was when i was getting into it for the first few months) at all I have many hobbies and projects now and I'm pretty content with my life as a whole