Ugh I could really use some help (just writing this is helping but I could use some practical bro advice).

I'm having a hell of a time advancing with this girl and im not too sure what the issue is. My first date went well. She said in a txt she liked being around me and that we should do something together soon. Well, work stuff for both of us came up and we saw each other a week later (last night).

She wanted me to come with her to a bar. Her childhood girl friend was also going to be there. Already my spidey senses were telling me that this was a bad idea. Meeting her friends on a second date? Eeep. I still dont have enough rep with this woman. I should have said no.

Anyway it seemed to go ok for the most part. I probably chatted up her gf more than I did her but there were still some awkward pauses between all three of us.

We left the bar a few hours later but I got her to come grab a coffee with me so we can have some degree of private time without me having to entertain her friend.

The next part went great. She was showing me sexy photos of her on her phone, kino was going ok (she wasnt really reciprocating but I was touching her arms, leg, etc) and she maintained eye contact. We did hold hands and we kissed a little bit at the end of the date after I called her on her shyness and to prove to me that she wasnt. It felt a little manipulative but it worked. We kissed like that twice while the valet was getting her car.

Here's where it went a little weird. We had already discussed doing dinner and a movie but she was now sort of backing off because she said she was going to have a rough work week. I'm not sure how to handle these situations where I bring up making new plans and getting sort of shot down. I brought this up during the date and I'm thinking that was a bad idea. This was before the kiss part.

Do I even do that during the date or should I just leave in the phone realm post date?

Should I again wait a 2-3 days post before attempting to ask again or longer?

Given that she is admittedly shy, how do I approach this?

Thanks!

okay....first, this one is not shy. She is so gaming you. It looks like you got suckered in. If she is showing you sexy photos, she is just throwing it at you and you fell in.
Sorry bro, you made a bad call in not knowing how she was manipulating you.

I would bet you have had a lot of dates with her now...probably seeing her a lot and you don't know that she played you.

Don't be so insecure. Anyone could have landed that one. I hoped you walked on to a higher standard. She sounds like she is FPUA.

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