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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:21 am 
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I've had a crush on the girl nextdoor for quite some time now. I am more of a calm guy who never plays games with women and goes for serious relationships. She is a teenager and kisses different guys multiple times a week. For fun she says, and I believed her for a long time. Because she always accentuated that she is a virgin. She says that all the guys know that she doesn't want it to become more than kissing. I found it a strange habit of hers but I gave her the benefit of the doubt (whether she is a total slut or just a 17 year old who is discovering her sexuality)

For half a year she has been telling me that she has only been in love once, with a drugs addict who abused her verbally. Her friends told her to stay away from him but she kept feeling this attraction towards him she says. Because he surprises her and he is "not by the book". He is 4 years older and a leader of her sports team.

But the latest weeks she told me that he was a total jerk and she is over him.
Until last week. She told me that she had seen him again after 3 months and on that same night, she had lost her virginity to him. I was totally shocked, because I know him and he is a total asshole. And I can never understand how she let him do that. It makes me think she has lied to me all the time. After the sex, he left and has ignored all her messages. She told me that I am the only one who knows this. That it was a dumb decision to do it, but she isn't sick of it or something.

For some reason, I always felt as if I was the adult who could get her back on track. But now she has lost her virginity to him, I can no longer see this is an innocent accident and I wonder if I should still have contact with her.
It doesn't seem like a phase that she is going through.
Am I too harsh if I conclude that she is not worthy of my attention anymore?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:49 am 
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you dont want to talk to her because she had sex? If you dont trust her then just move on and cut communication.

But to me its sounds like you got friend zoned; her telling personal information like that. My bestfriend told me that she queefed the first time she had sex. Yes i could have done without that information but she trusted me because she was comfortable and knew i wouldnt judge. Is this what ur HB is doing to you

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For some reason, I always felt as if I was the adult who could get her back on track.
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you dont want to talk to her because she had sex? If you dont trust her then just move on and cut communication.

But to me its sounds like you got friend zoned; her telling personal information like that. My bestfriend told me that she queefed the first time she had sex. Yes i could have done without that information but she trusted me because she was comfortable and knew i wouldnt judge. Is this what ur HB is doing to you
The first time I met her, it was obvious that she liked me and now that I know her better, I realize that she would have made out with me that evening if her parents hadn't asked her to come home. At the time, we were both virgins (I am in my early 20s and I still am a virgin). There were a few occasions where I could have kissed her but I felt as if it wasn't time for it yet. I kiss girls when I know them better and feel comfortable around them. We kept seeing each other and we became friends (I think)

But here's the thing. I've read dozens of threads about being friend zoned and I can relate to it in some way. But if you're gonna start a relationship with someone based on sexual attraction, without being friends, I think you will only succeed in picking up cheap bar sluts. I find her very attractive but my goal was to become more than friends and have a stable relationship. Not to just have sex with her without even being friends.

It's oke that she tells me personal stuff. I want(ed) to be her friend too and I like her. To some extent, the wildness in her amuses me and I found it attractive. But now that she is overreacting by kissing 4 guys per week on average, and having sex with a total loser, I don't think it's a game any longer and I don't even want to be her friend anymore, let alone her lover


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so were back at this leaving her for exploring her sexuality thing. You arent in a relationship with her so there nothing you can really do.

You said you didnt want to kiss her because you wanted to wait until you guys were friends. Did you ever consider the possibility that because you took (are taking) so long that she not as attracted to you. I know the whole we gotta be friends thing. Im a senior and highschool and i touch all my friends breasts on a regular basis. And i kiss them (on the cheek) and some on the lips.

Is it because my friends are bar sluts? No we cant even get into a club for a whole other year.

Bottom line is somewhere along the line you messed up and if this is a girl that you wish to pursue a relationship with then you need to have a talk with her. This pick up bs doesnt work in relationships sooooo get off the computer and go make it happen cuz good things DONT come to those who wait

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so were back at this leaving her for exploring her sexuality thing. You arent in a relationship with her so there nothing you can really do.

You said you didnt want to kiss her because you wanted to wait until you guys were friends. Did you ever consider the possibility that because you took (are taking) so long that she not as attracted to you
That is a common situation. And I think you hit the nail on the head.
But if I had responded in the beginning, she would have been all over me for a month and then she'd dump me because I am no longer interesting. That's how she handled her previous boyfriends.
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Bottom line is somewhere along the line you messed up and if this is a girl that you wish to pursue a relationship with then you need to have a talk with her. This pick up bs doesnt work in relationships sooooo get off the computer and go make it happen cuz good things DONT come to those who wait
I want to have a talk with her, but I have no idea what to say. If you were in my spot, and a you know that she kisses guys every week and had sex with a total asshole, are you still interested?
She is extremely attractive and she's fun. And I want to remove her bra and pleasure her all night long. But now I know that she does this with so many guys it makes me feel like another boytoy when I'm with her and I am too good for that.


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If you were in my spot, and a you know that she kisses guys every week and had sex with a total asshole, are you still interested?
doesnt matter. due to your limited sexual experiences this seems like a big deal. you dont like her as an equal. You want to save her bc she's somehow innocent. And your putting her on a pedastal End that mindset.

Declaring your feelings for her will not work. She prolly already knows you like her. your body language gives it away. It will just give her the instant eww feeling.
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And I want to remove her bra and pleasure her all night long. But now I know that she does this with so many guys it makes me feel like another boytoy when I'm with her and I am too good for that.
Excuse Me? First contradictory statements, I want to bang but I am too good for that. Her kissing guys is not a big deal it shoodnt even be registering in your mind.

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But if you're gonna start a relationship with someone based on sexual attraction, without being friends, I think you will only succeed in picking up cheap bar sluts. I find her very attractive but my goal was to become more than friends and have a stable relationship. Not to just have sex with her without even being friends.
Get rid of this limiting belief. This is wrong incorrect and will hinder your abilities to pick up any women. In fact this hindered you from picking up the one you desire.

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If you were in my spot, and a you know that she kisses guys every week and had sex with a total asshole, are you still interested?
doesnt matter. due to your limited sexual experiences this seems like a big deal. you dont like her as an equal. You want to save her bc she's somehow innocent. And your putting her on a pedastal End that mindset.

Declaring your feelings for her will not work. She prolly already knows you like her. your body language gives it away. It will just give her the instant eww feeling.
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And I want to remove her bra and pleasure her all night long. But now I know that she does this with so many guys it makes me feel like another boytoy when I'm with her and I am too good for that.
Excuse Me? First contradictory statements, I want to bang but I am too good for that. Her kissing guys is not a big deal it shoodnt even be registering in your mind.

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But if you're gonna start a relationship with someone based on sexual attraction, without being friends, I think you will only succeed in picking up cheap bar sluts. I find her very attractive but my goal was to become more than friends and have a stable relationship. Not to just have sex with her without even being friends.
Get rid of this limiting belief. This is wrong incorrect and will hinder your abilities to pick up any women. In fact this hindered you from picking up the one you desire.
You seem like an experienced guy who is telling the truth and I take your advice seriously. For too long I have been sitting behind my laptop, using porn to replace my sex life and opening threads about my feelings towards some women.
I posted a lot about some situations, because I didn't have the balls to talk about it in real life.

So I decided to make an effort and meet more girls. I've met 6 girls the last 2 weeks, and 3 of them have shown some interest. One of them is pretty attractive and 2 are just average girls. The average girls keep texting me and run after me like puppies. Yesterday I had a date with the hot girl (first time) and she was very silent, it was awkward. So I guess that's not going to work.

My best friends keep pushing me to date those average girls, hoping that I'm gonna be in a relationship with them. They are very kind but there is no sexual connection for me at all. It's not going to happen with them.

I want to make an effort to have a serious sex life. But at this point I always fall for women who cheat on their partners, drink like crazy and don't give a F about anything or anybody. It's almost as if I am asking to be abused
The last one I fell for really hurt me very badly and I was sick of it for months. I fucking hate it and I want to do something about it.
If you can tell me what I should do, I'll do it. I'm tired of sitting around


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