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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Hey guys Today something just dawned on me after I got the dreaded dead air text message return today from a girl who seemed very interested in me and meeting up.
I realised today that there are basiclly two ways you can F-close most girls

1) She makes a conscious decision to sleep with you based on either teh fact that youve put in teh rite amount of work that she deems necessary to get in her pants ( The AFC Method) or your value is so high that she cant miss the oppurtunity to have you (unlikely for anyone but an MPUA , celebrity.)

2) It happens at the spur of the moment and her subconscoious over powers her conscious mind and she does it ( alchohol helps shut down teh conscious mind which is why drunk peopel have more sex)

Basicly once a girl realises that you want to sleep with her at a certain place shes going to do everything to stop it if you havent met citeria 1 unless you can manage to get in a place where the F-close is a possibility without her consciously relaizing it then make ur move and let yours and her animaliictic insitincts take over.

Basicly dont alood to sex AT ALL infact dont even brooch anything that has an association such as sleeping, bed, or even yours or her place. She can not think teh sex location is already in yoru head unless youve met criteria one which is typically a long road. Context is also key eg ill cook you a meal is okay because at your place is assumed but youd still be better not to mention the words " my place" because of teh association to sex that comes with it.
Hopefully this helps and hopefully im rite on the money because Ive been havign this problem time and again and this seemd to be the only logical answer ( from experience as well as analysis). If im wrong or anyone would liek to add somethign or comment plse feel free critiscism is how we get better.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:49 am 
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I think you are wrong.

Girls are programmed to want to fuck guys. She wants to sleep with you already. All you have to do is not fuck it up by acting 'AFCish' or giving her a reason not to. (Ok it also depends how old you are...)

She should realise you want to sleep with her. It's better to get her thinking about sex. What will stop her are -

the thought that you're just using her as a conquest (perhaps)
the thought that people might think she's a slut
her not being attracted to you (she will be at first as long as you're not socially weird or terrible looking. You're a MAN and she's a WOMAN. You're MEANT to fuck each other).

So be cool. Don't try too hard to impress her and break the sexual tension that should exist.

Ok this is just repeating what Chief has posted from 60.... But it recently all just clicked into place for me and it makes sense.

Be yourself and enjoy yourself.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:38 am 
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I agree with everything you said and I realise I should have been more clear in my post what I meant was dont broach the subject of sex before you meet up for a day two. You can be flirty but once she thinks you are meeting her with the misstate of sex her conscious mind will make all sort of excuses why not to go unless you fulfill case 1. I must admit the girls Im around range form 18 to 21 and I have little experience with older woman so maybe in older woman this isnt the case I just assuming the rules don't change but mabe they do. Also by work I meant both comfort and time. If I am wrong or even a little off track please let me know. I appreciate all criticism as a chance to learn as long as its done in a polite manner and is being written from experience.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:28 am 
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Gambler tends to think kind of the same way you are. When extracting, he advises that you never mention:"My place", mine", "come back to my place..." "come back for a coffee..."ect. He also doesn't use any form of verbal sexual escalation.


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