First off, I'm new, hello. I've been reading into MM and pick up for the past month and a half and went out the past three weeks meeting women at bars (I'm a college student).

Now, there is this girl I've known for a few weeks, we had a mutual friend and I liked her personality. The few times I hung out with her I was always cocky funny with casual kino escalation. Never blatantly showed interest, I had a decent understanding of what I was doing, push-pull etc.

I learned that her and some guy were in a short, faux-relationship. She really liked him, but he hooked up with some random girls and made her feel like shit, so I figured I'd make a move. A week later, I went to her room for her suitemate's birthday. I got some kino, a few hugs, had her sit on my lap, rolled off on everything. I asked her to do comply to a little kino routine and she didn't, so I turned my back to her and talked to my friends. A few minutes later when I planned to ask her again she's making out with some random guy. I ignored it and continued talking to my friends. She made out with that guy for at least fifteen minutes.

A few days after that, I went out with her and her friends. I figured she was drunk, and that hookup didn't really mean anything, so I could make a legitimate move. The three of us go out to a bar and meet two guys and they hang out with us. One of them wants to hook up with the girl's friend, I said "go ahead," then I said to the other kid that the girl I liked was mine and he needed to back the fuck off. He complied. I get good kino from her, I ask her to dance, she goes with it, after a minute or two I use the line that she smells so good and that I'm trying not to kiss her (and follow with a roll off). She replies back that she didn't shower and is wondering why I said she smelled nice, I'm just thinking "God damn what the fuck are you talking about?" but I triangular gaze her try to move in and she says that we have too many mutual friends and it would be weird. I push her away and dance with some other girls and hook up with one of them (the girl I like saw me). A few minutes later I see her dancing with the guy I told to back off, I give him a mean fucking stare and get her away to dance with me. While dancing she's actually fucking texting on her phone, I'm pretty sure it's with the guy I mentioned above that she liked. Later I try to kiss her again and she doesn't go for it. I turned my back to her and danced with more girls and hung out with my friends.

The rest of the night consisted of us walking back to campus and shooting the ****. She came into my suite and talked to me and my roommate, and after 15 minutes I told her to get out. I haven't seen her since last night. I did get her phone number out of it though.

I have a few questions:
1) Is she ignoring me because she still likes that guy, or because she's not attracted to me? She did hook up with that random guy before and she didn't with me. Then again I was cocky funny, didn't show interest too soon, I had so many social proofs it was ridiculous. I don't get if she doesn't like me or if she is saving herself for that one guy.

2) How should I follow up on this? Should I ignore her for a little while? Should I try BF destroyer techniques on the guy? Should I try to attract her? I have no clue what to do with this?

I wouldn't consider this oneitis, because I'm willing to pick up other women, she's not making me obsessed with her, I'm not buying her gifts or drowning her with attention, I'm just doing what I'd regularly do. I just like her enough to make an effort.

Now though, I'm starting to lose interest. She has a nasty habit of getting too drunk and doing crazy shit, and she just goes on and on about that one guy. I need advice because I'm completely lost.

Thanks in advance, and thanks for reading this mammoth fucking thread.

Just stop bothering with her.

Two things that sound wrong:

1. Not smooth kino escalation
2. Continuous indirect methods

You probably should have showed more interest. It just makes more sense.

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sounds like you didnt build any attraction.. Kino doesnt mean anything if theres no attraction.. i didnt hear anything about cocky funny? neggs? the idea is to use ur personality.. not touching routines or hair smelling? thats just gonna make u come off as the touchy weird guy... and the aggression against the other guy is unnecessary.. theres plenty girls, its needy to zero in on one girl and say noone else can have her.. you dont bully the competition.. u disarm them & take her right from under his nose...

I figured I was attractive enough. I was making her laugh, I was being witty, I looked like the fucking man (I was leading our group, running into people I know and looking like a social butterfly, etc.).

And I was defensive as shit because I didn't want him getting her drunk and taking advantage of her. She already hooked up with a random guy when she was drunk before.

Still though, lessons being learned, every experience is a good experience as long as you understand your mistakes. I'll pay less attention to her, forget about it, move onto other women.

But I will try talking to her friends.

So now what do I do? Casually talk to her like nothing happened? I feel like I'd look like an insecure chode if I tried to become her friend after failing like that.

Should I hanging around her friends more and generally ignoring her?

Did she actually give you the LJBF speech if she did tell her okay but you're still going to continue to hit on her.

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No she just said that she couldn't kiss me because we had to many mutual friends. That's when I left her and danced/made out with other girls.

I managed to drag her away from the guy she was already dancing with and was able to dance with her again. I think if I fucked up she would have said "get away from me you creep" or something.

Still though, I don't know if she doesn't like me or she does, but is just obsessed with that one guy. Meh, I'll continue acting the same around her, but giving her friends more attention. If she brings up the guy she likes again I'll consider BF destroying him.

Move the fuck on already.

Seriously guys, this is supposed to be a pick-up forum, and yet every other post is somebody detailing a blatant case of oneitis.