ohk so i wanna know how you can spot a real PUA because ive realised theres alot of guys flirting with girls, what i want to know is when im up againts a PUA or a just a regular guy.
Ive noticed alot of guys are doing some of the PUA stuff but are they really a PUA, AFC or a natural born ALPHA Male.
anyone know how to tell the difference between the groups? (other then watching them do routines and stuff)

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Three Types of Players:
1) Those who doesn't know whats happening
2) Those who watch what happens
3) Those who make it happen

Who cares, I assume every chode out there flirting with a girl is AFC. Why you wanna know anyways?

You will rarely meet an actual PUA unless your in a club in a giant city.

But, you will know who the AFC's, AMOGS, and people use some PUA methods.
A PUA should be able to recongize the normal guys(AFCS) and Alpha's easily and quickly. Body language can tell you who's who quickly.
guys who use PUA related things take a little longer to pickup but confident body language and how the women are responding to them gives it away.

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Inner game is the core, outer game is just an expression of it

You will rarely meet an actual PUA unless your in a club in a giant city.

But, you will know who the AFC's, AMOGS, and people use some PUA methods.
A PUA should be able to recongize the normal guys(AFCS) and Alpha's easily and quickly. Body language can tell you who's who quickly.
guys who use PUA related things take a little longer to pickup but confident body language and how the women are responding to them gives it away.

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Inner game is the core, outer game is just an expression of it

because theres alot of videos on youtube realating with pick up artists, and alot of those videos have been watched by alot of people so theres going to be alot of people using the materials.

and if you do end up with a PUA, whats the best approach to destroy?

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Three Types of Players:
1) Those who doesn't know whats happening
2) Those who watch what happens
3) Those who make it happen

If they're using canned materials/routines, you can call them on it. Or, to be more subtle, you can preempt their next step since you know what they are going to do next. Alternatively, you can make pretend that you're much farther along with your set that you actually are (which will throw off the trained betas). Also effective, use some of the things you'd use on a set on the other guy. Any PUA who's married to a script will not know how to handle the game being turned around on him. Just read a post somewhere, where some guy tried to move in by "trying out a game." But he pissed off when our posting PUA interrupted him with an opinion opener.

then what happens if he catches me out? how should i act?
like if your using the ' wheres a good club opener' and someone from the group picked up that im trying to game a chick by using pick up stuff.

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Three Types of Players:
1) Those who doesn't know whats happening
2) Those who watch what happens
3) Those who make it happen

3 easiest ways:

1. He is asking for an opinion

2. He is talking over the shoulder (I was at school the other day and my buddy was talking to this dude and this guy was talking to my friend over the shoulder, the whole time I was standing there two things were running through my head 1. I'm 95% sure he is a PUA and 2. That guy is an idiot for talking over the shoulder to a guy that he knows... And guess WHAT the next day i saw the guy talking to two guys that I know are PUAs, coincidence? I don't think so..."

3. He TRIES to peacock even in day time (The same guy above had like a shitty bling necklace and shitty highlights hair)


Cheers

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V3nu

would you agree if they control their body language is the key?

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Three Types of Players:
1) Those who doesn't know whats happening
2) Those who watch what happens
3) Those who make it happen

"quick question"

Does it matter?

Plus you guys are talking mystery method guys right.

An AFC, yeah, you could spot him pretty easily, he is like 99% of all of the guys around.

A PUA could be an alpha male. He should be. An alpha male can be a PUA.

PUAs go from being AFCs to being naturals through a variety of different steps. In the end they realize that there are no rules. There is no spoon, only guidelines. He doesnt care about the rules because he is following them automatically. And he doesnt need them anymore. The problems the rules were supposed to hide has already been taken care of.

That is called going naural if you have progressed far enough and it is called full AFC reversal if you havent.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Yah for sure you can spot the don't have "normal" body language, like you can see they are trying to "control" every body movement, unless they are total control freaks then yah he is probably a pua or at least a pua wanna be

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V3nu

i agree my friend because it does feel like im trying to control my body language and other guys are just going with the flow

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Three Types of Players:
1) Those who doesn't know whats happening
2) Those who watch what happens
3) Those who make it happen

I did that too in the beginning... But now I dont have to think about it anymore, its automatic...

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

Im slowly getting there managing my body language till i dont have to have control anymore but theres still a little crazy drunken monkey in my head!
grats for u EZO

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Three Types of Players:
1) Those who doesn't know whats happening
2) Those who watch what happens
3) Those who make it happen