Ok this my final update

One guy wrote me a 2 and a half page essay, this guy had to have spent a whole day on it and it was catered to me not copypaste

Most guys here are nice guys not showing any badboy

Havent had any disgusting emails yet(thank god)
One guy said 'first date you watch while ill eat' either very dirty or too over the top cf

Conclusion: your time is better spent elsewhere rather than plentyoffish. Beautiful girls get tons and tons of msgs. Yea albeit most of them are not good but pof is sort of image centric as well. This site in my opinion takes away our biggest tool for getting women and that is emotional presence. I believe this now the single most important thing in a pua. You can get the best line to open from these forums but if theres no emotion transmitted to the girl your chances are low. I will delete my experimental and real profile because i know my chances are much better irl. Most of the girls on pof probably feel a bit like celebrities being told how cute,gorgeous and wonderful they are ever 5 mins from a random guy. The more they hear it the more they build a calaise for it until it has litttle or no emotional effect on them. This is why generic comments do not work on them.

Sorry typing on iphone is tough had to break there.

I do not believe in dating sites after having done this experiment and seeing the results. I believe there are girls out there that use this site to boost or maintain their self esteem. Sort of like a 'mirror mirror on the wall' type thing. They have no interest in meeting you and starting a relationship. They are only there to waste your time. One final thing by the way, i know that i could easily create a dummy acccount that averages 100-200 emails a day. How easy would it be for a dating site to create fake beautiful women profiles just to attract customers totheir site????

You ran your experiment for what? A couple of days and you are coming to this conclusion? A bit short sighted no?
There are girls who do this, but not all of them do. There are girls there that actually do want to meet people believe it or not.

What do you think the paid dating sits do? POF and OkCupid don't do this to my knowledge.

Not really. Its guys not knowing hot to invoke an emotional response via words.
I also willing to bet you don't have much experience with online dating. Which is why you came to the conclusions you did.
How is any different from real life when a girl goes to a bar/club?

Although this might be valuable in terms of discovering what guys tend to do when responding to a female profile on a dating site, don't overstate your responses too much. How you respond to something is not necessarily how a woman would actually respond to it, particularly since you what you were doing and also knew that you weren't looking for someone to date.

In order to actually make this a valid experiement about what works on women in this context, you'd have to take it offline and produce both dummy profiles and dummy comments, then run it by a variety of women testing the different conditions against one another in order to draw any valid conclusions (ie--you need an experiemntal and a control group, at the very least). Then, of course, you'd have to run it through statistical analysis in order to determine if the results that you found were statistically significant, or merely due to random chance.

Hey not to argue with research/statistics, but I think okc has it wrong and Vibe has the smile thing correct. Not smiling = either bad teeth or a negative person or both. I've given quite a few non-smilers a shot, always with the above results in a meet. Only smilers get a response now.

Hey Vibe, it would be cool to check out your 'fake' profile... Send us a link?

This would be true if one were doing an actual research based viable test...

However, this is just an experiment trying to see some BASIC conclusions...it is not hard, after I had my "dummy" profile on for 2 days now and guys 1) are not reading my profile, mostly. 2) Don't say anything interesting, one liners like, "how are you," are common, 3) or the guys come off with these resume e-mails...

From these basic observations, regardless of not being a girl, there is NOTHING interesting about 95% of these e-mails to cause a girl or a guy to want to interact outside their looks...I think Vibe has that part right...

Vibe: I would say there ARE plenty of FISH, no pun intended, to pick up on there...I have been on at least 20 dates in the last year, with several of them being fun and a few with f-closes....

Like I said, online sites should be USED as a SIDENOTE to gaming, not the bulk, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.....spend a few hours a week on it at most, but spend 40 hours in field...lol

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The best laugh I ever had was in a chatbox (I know, sooooo 2003 but it was 2003). I pretended to be a HB wanting phone sex. I asked guy #1 for his number and gave it to guy #2. ROTFL!!!

ok in response to quote #1
To this day i've receive close to 100 emails for 100 different men to make a fair assessment of a women's prospective on online dating. It MAY not be as good as an actual women, but i believe it gives insight. I'm not going to spend 10 years collecting emails here. Further more, scientists do take what is called a 'sample' of statistics. I believe that I have done that here with the 100 emails. You must think of this in terms of percentages. If i collect 1000 emails do you REALLY think the percentages would be that different? By your way of thinking, every experiment conducted on the planet would be 'inconclusive' and nothing would be certain or trusted.

quote #2 - Learn to read carefully please. I never said ALL GIRLS ON THE SITE do this. I said 'there are girls that do this' Meaning that some do and some don't in case you don't understand.

quote #3 - you stated 'POF and OKcupid don't create bogus profiles to generate traffiic for their site.' You have no knowledge of POF and OKCUPID's structure and internal business strategy so your statement is weak and meaningless. Do you work for them? why would they NOT want to generate more traffic and get more advertising? There is no way of telling if they do this so it is the perfect crime for them to commit. They are more then likely to use this practice to do whats most important to them....MAKE MONEY. Business who want to survive must generate revenue. Even charities generate make money. I've studied marketing and entrepreneurship for 6 years these were my majors in college.

quote #1 sorry not an NLP'r and even NLP requires proper use of tone, touch and emotion

#2 I believe that I have a solid understanding of it to make sound opinion

#3 Because most girls do not get hit on in real life nearly as much as they do online. If i log onto my fake profile at 7pm - 10pm I will get hit on probably about 30-40 times. I only got 100 emails total on my fake profile because I dont' stay logged onto the site. Therefore my profile does not remain at the top of the search engine. If I kept refresh my profile I would've WAY more than 100 emails.
No girl in a club will have 100 guys approach her because.....men are more afraid to approach IRL. An average girl may not get hit on at all in a club making her more vulnerable or more open. Things become easier for you as a guy because if you approach her she hasn't built up resistance...urg this is hard to explain. Im not an english major, i'm a business guy lol. Okay best analogy...her skin isn't think and its easy to pierce through to get to the juices or reward w/e

'Gangsta pose' for men went out with rap and hiphop.
I think confident, friendly, successful pose is in nowadays...am i rite ladies?

I want to thank you guys for your responses whether you agree or disagree with me. I'd much rather have someone disagree with me than view the thread and not post a response. Once again thanks!

very funny, but cruel

I am aware of sample studies. They tend to be most effective when you generate a pool big enough for what you are studying. I don't think running a fake profile for two days will give you effective date. Running it a week would. It was what I did. Tho I think it be best to say we have different ways to study things as I doubt we will agree here.
The way I read it I thought you meant that, my bad.
Face it your argument is just as weak as mine. You don't seem to have inside knowledge of these companies either. You are assuming they make their own fake profiles. If POF and OK really did make their own fake profiles won't they make it so these fake profiles send out messages to real members so that people will view the profile and in turn see the ad? Didn't they teach you about continual revenue streams in your classes? And yet this has yet to be reported anywhere from legit sources. A lot of the fake profiles are made by scammers not by the site owners. There are many blog posts and what have you on this on the net. Beside think about it what would POF and OK gain by setting up fake profiles? They will drive people away not to them.

I disagree with the NLP thing but that is just personal opinion. Saying that words themselves can invoke emotion if used right. A lot of todays online marketing is done via words. A prime example of this is Twitter. Look at how many companies use that service to announce products and what have you and how people take to it. Or via other social websites. Hell books do the same thing.
Fair enough.
I get what your saying just fine. Your right in that sense.