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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:15 pm 
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[quote="Stand Up"]probably nothing. I don't see relationships as healthy, and I know I'm certainly not healthy when in a relationship. I neglect my friends, don't trust my girlfriend, cheat on her, work too hard, don't eat enough, drink too heavily etc.

No girl I know of could change that, which is why I'm always careful to be incredibly honest about my lack of commitment. I don't want to piss people off and hurt girls by pretending to be something I'm not.[/quote]

I see.
I agree with you that MOST relationships are not healthy.
I have been with guys that were clingy and it is annoying. But all you mention here are more a matter of having control of yourself and high confidence and self esteem.
Have you ever thought that changing this problem is something that you are the one that should deal with it?
Setting the rules and being the master of yourself is not making you something else from what you are. It just makes you stronger and respecting yourself. This sounds all positive to me. 8)


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probably nothing. I don't see relationships as healthy, and I know I'm certainly not healthy when in a relationship. I neglect my friends, don't trust my girlfriend, cheat on her, work too hard, don't eat enough, drink too heavily etc.

No girl I know of could change that, which is why I'm always careful to be incredibly honest about my lack of commitment. I don't want to piss people off and hurt girls by pretending to be something I'm not.
I see.
I agree with you that MOST relationships are not healthy.
I have been with guys that were clingy and it is annoying. But all you mention here are more a matter of having control of yourself and high confidence and self esteem.
Have you ever thought that changing this problem is something that you are the one that should deal with it?
Setting the rules and being the master of yourself is not making you something else from what you are. It just makes you stronger and respecting yourself. This sounds all positive to me. 8)
why bother, i'm really happy single. No chance of me losing money or missing out on fun times with my mates. Better to be single.

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Girls are waking up to indirect openers and canned routines.
If you run natural game and use dynamic or direct openers your sweet.

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The stupid thing about direct openers is that there already had to be attraction, like eye contact and she smiling to you. Basicly, this is a matter of looks and/or social status, or just luck.

Golden rule: "never show interest in a girl until she shows you interest first".

What I often see is guys who are going direct or beginning to hit on a girl before she has shown interest first, the girls just reject them.

When using indirect game, you can start talking to a girl without her blowing you out in the first seconds.
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why bother, i'm really happy single. No chance of me losing money or missing out on fun times with my mates. Better to be single.
Yes sometimes it's just great to be single. I like to flirt so without commitment I can do what I want, and I can have pure sexual relationships without issues. But I like to balance things and after a few flirts, and if I find a girl who I realy like, I'm going for the relationship.

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[quote="Stand Up"][quote="a_girl_"][quote="Stand Up"]probably nothing. I don't see relationships as healthy, and I know I'm certainly not healthy when in a relationship. I neglect my friends, don't trust my girlfriend, cheat on her, work too hard, don't eat enough, drink too heavily etc.

No girl I know of could change that, which is why I'm always careful to be incredibly honest about my lack of commitment. I don't want to piss people off and hurt girls by pretending to be something I'm not.[/quote]

I see.
I agree with you that MOST relationships are not healthy.
I have been with guys that were clingy and it is annoying. But all you mention here are more a matter of having control of yourself and high confidence and self esteem.
Have you ever thought that changing this problem is something that you are the one that should deal with it?
Setting the rules and being the master of yourself is not making you something else from what you are. It just makes you stronger and respecting yourself. This sounds all positive to me. 8)[/quote]

why bother, i'm really happy single. No chance of me losing money or missing out on fun times with my mates. Better to be single.[/quote]
If you don't risk in life a little bit then it is not worth living.


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I don't see it as a risk, I see it as almost a guarantee of failure.

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The stupid thing about direct openers is that there already had to be attraction, like eye contact and she smiling to you. Basicly, this is a matter of looks and/or social status, or just luck.
Those things help with direct openers, but you don't really need them for direct openers. You really just need a lot of confidence and deliver the line solid and your pretty much good to go.
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Golden rule: "never show interest in a girl until she shows you interest first".
To bad that rule is faulty on logic or more reality. What do think a guy does when he approaches a girl say in a nigh club? He is showing interest to her.
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What I often see is guys who are going direct or beginning to hit on a girl before she has shown interest first, the girls just reject them.

When using indirect game, you can start talking to a girl without her blowing you out in the first seconds.
Both ways can get you blown out within the first seconds. Indirect just lowers the chances of it happening as it is easier to do than direct game. Direct game is harder to pull off as it needs more gusto than indirect and you need to pretty much need to nail the delivery of the line/opener right or else you will get blown out.


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