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Wicked thread man. Cheers bruv and all the best with your girl and the future x


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Congradulations on winning the game man, GL in life, your posts have been helpful

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Wow man, congrats from retiring from the game. Ironically, this is just when I'm starting out. Do you have any leftover wingmen? Maybe someone here in their 20's is willing to get out in the field?


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how did you know that she was "the one" and how do you don't miss your lifestyle?


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how did you know that she was "the one" and how do you don't miss your lifestyle?
It is important to know that there is no such thing as "the one" there are plenty of great girls out there and when you find someone who you get along with great, you make each other laugh, you love each other and you would both die for each other then I would say you are stupid to pass up the opportunity (and the fact that she is gorgeous isn't bad either).

And when it comes to lifestyle, well it is rather nice to wake up next to the same girl every morning, to never have to hunt again etc. I still hang out with a lot of PUAs so I still get my share of that life but it is wonderful to have a girl you can depend on and not having to deal with moronic bimbos all the time :wink:

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Hi Slywalker,

I am completely new to pick up and, as you may relate to, don't know where to start. I've read your posts and can honestly say your an inspiration to me in pickup. I've got a few questions to ask though.

1, Could you recommend to me some books and puas to read up on? Not standard ones like Mystery Method but ones that you really thought impacted your game and improved it.

2. How do you improve natural game. It seems like quite an ambiguous term that covers lots of ideas. I believe that natural game is the way forward and in the long term is better than canned material. But I'm not sure how to improve it?

3. I've discovered that confidence is about 90% of game and is almost unstoppable. I was wondering if there are any books or techniques you know on how to improve it?

4. Same as above but with NLP best books and techniques you know?

5. You said some where before that one of your specialties is day game. I'd really like to be good at that cos I always see the hottest girls walking down the street! How do you improve it?

6. Whats your standard formula for day game? (eg. some HB walking down the street) dw I won't copy it, I just need some inspiration :P

7. How do you kino escalate. I mean how do you go from casually talking to a woman to incorporating kino?

8. How do you build rapport. I'm having trouble with this as sometimes the coversation can turn very boring and stay with small talk.

9. How do you step the conversation up the next level? (If you know what I mean, from building rapport to casually flirting)

10. How do you open to girls? (I saw in one LR that you casually said "Hey hows it going". I was wondering whats the best type of opener. A casual "hows it going", a canned opener, or a direct one)


Sorry about asking so many questions. :) But those are literally all the questions I needed answers to. :wink: Pick up is pretty daunting when first seen from the perspective of an AFC. So thanks in advance for the answers and I hope you are able to answer with as much detail and info as possible.

Thanks,

footiedrummer :D

PS Now your married and giving up pick up will you leave the forum? I honestly hope you don't because there are many people who could learn from your valuable experience. :wink:


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brilliant posts man! ive enjoyed reading them over the years!

Wish you luck for the future! :D


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Hi Slywalker,

I am completely new to pick up and, as you may relate to, don't know where to start. I've read your posts and can honestly say your an inspiration to me in pickup. I've got a few questions to ask though.

1, Could you recommend to me some books and puas to read up on? Not standard ones like Mystery Method but ones that you really thought impacted your game and improved it.

2. How do you improve natural game. It seems like quite an ambiguous term that covers lots of ideas. I believe that natural game is the way forward and in the long term is better than canned material. But I'm not sure how to improve it?

3. I've discovered that confidence is about 90% of game and is almost unstoppable. I was wondering if there are any books or techniques you know on how to improve it?

4. Same as above but with NLP best books and techniques you know?

5. You said some where before that one of your specialties is day game. I'd really like to be good at that cos I always see the hottest girls walking down the street! How do you improve it?

6. Whats your standard formula for day game? (eg. some HB walking down the street) dw I won't copy it, I just need some inspiration :P

7. How do you kino escalate. I mean how do you go from casually talking to a woman to incorporating kino?

8. How do you build rapport. I'm having trouble with this as sometimes the coversation can turn very boring and stay with small talk.

9. How do you step the conversation up the next level? (If you know what I mean, from building rapport to casually flirting)

10. How do you open to girls? (I saw in one LR that you casually said "Hey hows it going". I was wondering whats the best type of opener. A casual "hows it going", a canned opener, or a direct one)


Sorry about asking so many questions. :) But those are literally all the questions I needed answers to. :wink: Pick up is pretty daunting when first seen from the perspective of an AFC. So thanks in advance for the answers and I hope you are able to answer with as much detail and info as possible.

Thanks,

footiedrummer :D

PS Now your married and giving up pick up will you leave the forum? I honestly hope you don't because there are many people who could learn from your valuable experience. :wink:
Hi, many questions, but I'll do my best to answer them :wink:
I'll answer them in short at first and if you want me to elaborate on anything let me know.

1. As a very basic beginner book is David DeAngelo's Attraction is not a choice, it will give you good a basic things to think about. This article by Ross Jeffries is also very good to start with: http://nlp-expert.co.uk/seduction/Ross.pdf
Other than that, I can recommend Vincent Dicarlo as a good all in all PUA instructor, but most of all, read a bunch of books and try to extract the best material from each of them and combine them in to your own material. 60 is also very popular these days but I haven't looked in to it enough to comment on that.

2. Natural game is everything that comes from your own brain. To improve it don't be afraid to improvise and take chances, talk to many people and try everything, the best way to do this is through experience. Other peoples material can help you as a crutch in the beginning.

3. Yeah, NLP has a ton exercises for this, the best ones are about thinking back to positive experiences in the past and apply the same feelings in the now. The best beginners book that covers everything is Steve Andreas - NLP the new technology of achievement. Steve.

4. I believe I just answered that, get back to me when you read it, it's only like 10 bucks on amazon.

5. Practice practice practice, and fearless practice! Don't be afraid who you practice on, talk to bums, old ladies, gay guys and hot girls, make everyone smile and make sure they all remember you!

6. Well there are tons of ways, you can improvise with something situational but the most basic approach I guess is to be really bold, approach her direct and run the NLP comfort zone which you can find linked in my long stickied post "10 things.." It is by far the best way to grab a phone number with high chances of a date later. You can also be bold and go for an instant date and suggest coffee or something similar.
I have a feeling you'll ask me to elaborate on this one and I am ok with that :)

7. For kino escalation basics vin dicarlo summarized it pretty good in his free ebook linked here http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esc ... lo.com.pdf
But one thing that most people neglect in kino escalation are the soft touch of your hands, women love it, let them gently run everywhere, through her hair, touch her neck, face, and lips etc. Play with her, tease her, women love it!

8. Again NLP books will help you here, try to reach her on her level always! mirror behavior etc, my NLP comfort zone will also help you!

9. Provocative and suggestive teasing, study Sean Connery as james bond and you'll know what I mean :)

10. In opening I like a causal opener like, hey whats up, or just hey, then the most important part is the pause, after you open, take a pause for like 2-3 seconds, and look at her, make sure she knows you are looking at her, it will make her uncomfortable enough to destroy her bitch shield, but curious enough to want to know what you have to say, then run your opener, which in my case is usually situational. Experiment with that pause, it can be a very efficient weapon!

And finally, yes I plan to stick around to give guys advice through these threads, I enjoy helping people out and I know I could have used some good help when I first started out, best of luck and don't hesitate to reply if you have more questions.

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Thanks Slywalker, that has definitatley answered some of my buring questions and I will definitely read the material you mentioned :)

I've got a few more questions though. (I know what your thinking, when is this guy gonna shut up? :wink: )

1. One question that sprang to mind was how did you become a pua. When you first started out how did you improve your game and technique and how did you develope your style?

2. This may be the same as the NLP and confidence questions I asked, but how do you improve your inner game? Are then any good books. Can you develope traits and characteristics over time by practicing them?

3. In question 6 you said run to run the nlp comfort zone. I saw you said to imitate her posture and expression, and get her to describe her comfort place.Are there any other methods?

4. Could you give me an example of gaming some random HB? (Basically I get how you open to her with a "whats up?" and a situational opener, and I get the NLP comfort zone and get her talking about herself and how to close from that. The only difficulty I'm having is how do you get from talking about the situational opener uve just used to getting her to talk about herself and talking to each other personally?)

5. Could you give me an example of provocative and suggestive teasing?

6. How do you casually bring up sex in a conversation. How do you easily move from one other topic to talking about sex?

Thats just about everything. :D


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7. Oh and also, what do you think of pushing and pulling (negging her for a bit and then complimenting her)

Is it any good? and do you use it?


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Thanks Slywalker, that has definitatley answered some of my buring questions and I will definitely read the material you mentioned :)

I've got a few more questions though. (I know what your thinking, when is this guy gonna shut up? :wink: )

1. One question that sprang to mind was how did you become a pua. When you first started out how did you improve your game and technique and how did you develope your style?

2. This may be the same as the NLP and confidence questions I asked, but how do you improve your inner game? Are then any good books. Can you develope traits and characteristics over time by practicing them?

3. In question 6 you said run to run the nlp comfort zone. I saw you said to imitate her posture and expression, and get her to describe her comfort place.Are there any other methods?

4. Could you give me an example of gaming some random HB? (Basically I get how you open to her with a "whats up?" and a situational opener, and I get the NLP comfort zone and get her talking about herself and how to close from that. The only difficulty I'm having is how do you get from talking about the situational opener uve just used to getting her to talk about herself and talking to each other personally?)

5. Could you give me an example of provocative and suggestive teasing?

6. How do you casually bring up sex in a conversation. How do you easily move from one other topic to talking about sex?

Thats just about everything. :D
Ok let's start over :wink:

1. I think I have mentioned this in the "10 things.." thread earlier, I was about 19 and I wasn't doing great with women, I wasn't terrible, I just had a very low outcome when it came to the number of girls I was interested in and the number of girls interested in me. So I decided that there has to be more to it, that I need to do something different, "if something doesn't work, try something else" right? So I started to try new things all the time, I kept notes on what worked and not, and eventually enough experience will take you where you want to go. Your style shouldn't be something new that you develop, it should simply be an improved version of yourself, if you lose yourself along the way, you will not succeed.

2. Inner game can only really come from yourself, you have to believe in yourself and in what you do! NLP books can help your thoughts in the right direction, and writers like Vin DiCarlo and David DeAngelo can help you think more like a man so to speak. So no book alone can improve your inner game, but they can give you important guidelines.

3. Tons! This is just the one that I find work all the time, so it just became the standard thing that I am doing because I have had such great success with it. But any PUA author will have his own approach, try them all just for fun and through that experience you will develop your own technique.

4. Sure: As usual when I was single I was on the train on my way downtown for a saturday night, on the train I always made sure to sit close to some good looking girl (I've had huge success on trains and buses). So I see this mid 20's girl, hot and exotic, in her own style of clothing, rare and pretty.
So I look at her and I say my usual "So what's up?" It is so simple, yet it took me months to perfect it, to get it just right.
She gave me a shy look back and said "hi", I took the pause, looked at her top to toe, and said, "So I'm trying to determine your if clothing style is native american or Renaissance" She tells me that it is an outfit she bought when she visited Iran, I ask her if she was born there and she was, So I ask her if she has some rare and beautiful persian name, and she tells me her name, and I repeat it. All of a sudden she lights up and smiles, she tells me "No american ever gets my name right" We start talking about stupid americans and how they can never pronounce anything and that is my way "in" now all of a sudden I have her attention and I can use all the tricks in my arsenal, I have listed most of them in my threads.
So how did I do this? I listened for a way in so to speak, and listening is the most important thing you can do when talking to a woman, and way to few people do this.

5. Hmm, I think this one in fairly self explanatory, just make sure that you don't act childish

6. anything can go there, and it is ok to talk about se as long as you are adult and confident about it and you don't speak like a pervert.
For example, I was talking about pillows with this girl and she said she liked synthetic more than cotton, I told her that sure they are comfortable but it's get sweaty during wild sex, and all of a sudden our conversation were about wild sex instead.

Hope this helps

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Hey thanks for all your answers they are definately helping me and showing me where to start. I'm a bit stumped on developing inner game though :? Do you develope it by improving your character and social skills outside of pickup?

Ok here it goes, this will be the last question I will ask you whilst I am a newbie :P

Is DHV any good? Do you find it useful?

Thanks again for your advice and hopefully I won't need anymore.


PS I think you missed my last question :wink:

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