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mm is a great base, and does work! i've gotten way more results using his and mehow's method. but i am going to read sixties book. The only think i disagree with mm is that you talk way to much throughout the interaction. Mehow is solid when he says give strong value (witty, dhv stories) then pause and let her contribute, don't stack imediatley.


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Most of this is completely counter-intuitive, but pure genius.

Getting out of your comfort zone (literally) by embracing awkward silence and thus feeding sexual tension will eventually and ironically make you more comfortable with awkward silence.

Some of these suggestions and principles seem slightly bizarre but nonetheless, well, necessary. I'm certainly going to give these a shot. My number rejection the other night probably could have been avoided if I had simply been stronger and more comfortable with the awkward silence without blurting out after her response.

Good post, I need to check this 60 guy out some more, he seems legitimate.

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Good post, I need to check this 60 guy out some more, he seems legitimate.
hahaha

You won't believe how often people are saying "60 IS LEGIT!!!" It's practically a meme now. I've even seen it on PUAHate.


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Good post, I need to check this 60 guy out some more, he seems legitimate.
hahaha

You won't believe how often people are saying "60 IS LEGIT!!!" It's practically a meme now. I've even seen it on PUAHate.
60 is about the only guy on puahate that doesn't get hated on CONSTANTLY.

On a side note: to anyone who takes puahate seriously, DON'T. Puahate is made up of trolls, chodes or are angry with themselves because they cant get the balls to change, and angry guys who "did everything a guru told me" and still didn't get laid. Its a community filled around negative energy.

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A mate and I field tested this the other night, One girl would not leave me alone and she number closed me then grinded me for like 20 minutes on the dance floor.
I kept ejecting early but soon learnt that asd doesnt last long if you stay put.

You have to remember to break the tension then build it up a little bit more, if there is too much tension that its incredibly awkward the girl just leaves.

My mate got a girl to buy him drinks for the night, and another wanted to leave with him after a few minutes of talking. This shit was the pretty much the biggest break through in his life.

No routines were used.


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Amazing, even mystery would be stunned.

AFCCoffee :twisted:
Mystery ain't got shit on this guy ;)
Damn right bro :wink:

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I like it because it's very opposed to the conventional way of doing things and I personally love to create sexual tension.
Hopefully this helps make guys think differently.

I agree in principle with most of the points, however sometimes you need to assume different roles to achieve an objective:

-opening mixed set.
-working a group.
-extraction.

In all of these situations, sexual tension could be a negative. If you want to get a girl back to a house (maybe as part of a group), it's sometimes good to keep things casual and light until you get her back and then turn up the heat.

Applying a one-size fits all approach - whether "GO DIRECT" or "ALWAYS SEXUAL TENSION" or "GO FOR KISS AFTER 20 MINS" is never going to work in all situations and guys should take what they can from this and mix with other things that work for them. After enough experience, you'll naturally do what is right in a given situation.

I rarely meet guys that are able to create sexual tension or handle it so I endorse this from that perspective, just don't throw everything else out of the window.
Hey Scammer. It doesn't shock me you like it, because if not you wouldn't copy his shit and make "stealth seduction" out of it you douchebag!

Hail 60!
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Hey Scammer. It doesn't shock me you like it, because if not you wouldn't copy his shit and make "stealth seduction" out of it you douchebag!

Hail 60!
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Be more civil on this forum. Keep the negativity to yourself.


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An interesting read, I have a few questions:

Using this assumption:
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2) Most women are already naturally attracted to you
it is fair to say that what most guys do to try and get women is countering this; it is unattractive. So, if I do literally nothing at all, women are attracted to me somehow, despite people in the room being more social and displaying more value than me sat down doing nothing? Not trying to criticise and I know you're not the original author but I'm obviously missing something here - I just don't see how.

Am I taking this out of context? (unintentionally ofc)
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Resistance: who tries to diffuse the awkward moment first
If I'm in a bar talking to a girl (I initiated) and I run out of things to say, does this mean I wait for her to talk and possibly make an excuse to leave instead of carrying on talking about something else situational?
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The reduction of tension starts right away. Most guys will use a social opener or make up an excuse to start the conversation. This may help you and her both feel comfortable, but is that really such a good idea?
Is this suggesting I go direct? I would use a situational opener; I don't want to appear creepy going direct (a fault of my behalf possibly).
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Instead you want to keep relatively quiet and use more of a blank stare when listening. Similar to a poker players face. By listening intently but not giving her much feedback she will feel like she needs to qualify herself to you.
Even though I was the one who opened her? It's better to not engage as much instead of having an interactive conversation?



Despite these questions a lot of it does make sense, escalation and rapport section as well as this:"For example if you want to set up a meet it's better to call girls vs. text them. " I do that always, fuck texting.
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Risk Creepy
Skeptical...

If anyone has any examples of this "do less" I'd appreciate it. I don't understand this at all, it goes against everything I've experienced myself and that I've read in PUA.


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An interesting read, I have a few questions:

Using this assumption:
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2) Most women are already naturally attracted to you
it is fair to say that what most guys do to try and get women is countering this; it is unattractive. So, if I do literally nothing at all, women are attracted to me somehow, despite people in the room being more social and displaying more value than me sat down doing nothing? Not trying to criticise and I know you're not the original author but I'm obviously missing something here - I just don't see how.

Am I taking this out of context? (unintentionally ofc)
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Resistance: who tries to diffuse the awkward moment first
If I'm in a bar talking to a girl (I initiated) and I run out of things to say, does this mean I wait for her to talk and possibly make an excuse to leave instead of carrying on talking about something else situational?
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The reduction of tension starts right away. Most guys will use a social opener or make up an excuse to start the conversation. This may help you and her both feel comfortable, but is that really such a good idea?
Is this suggesting I go direct? I would use a situational opener; I don't want to appear creepy going direct (a fault of my behalf possibly).
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Instead you want to keep relatively quiet and use more of a blank stare when listening. Similar to a poker players face. By listening intently but not giving her much feedback she will feel like she needs to qualify herself to you.
Even though I was the one who opened her? It's better to not engage as much instead of having an interactive conversation?



Despite these questions a lot of it does make sense, escalation and rapport section as well as this:"For example if you want to set up a meet it's better to call girls vs. text them. " I do that always, fuck texting.
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Risk Creepy
Skeptical...

If anyone has any examples of this "do less" I'd appreciate it. I don't understand this at all, it goes against everything I've experienced myself and that I've read in PUA.
I don't follow 60s method exclusively, I combine a lot of it with RSD and Vin DiCarlo stuff.

Anyways, i'll answer some of your questions:
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So, if I do literally nothing at all, women are attracted to me somehow
Women actually become slightly attracted to many men thru out her day, every day. Thats why they have "shit test" to see if your a man worth being attracted too.
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If I'm in a bar talking to a girl (I initiated) and I run out of things to say, does this mean I wait for her to talk and possibly make an excuse to leave instead of carrying on talking about something else situational?
If your following 60s method exclusively then yes, in many cases you do wait for her to talk.
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Is this suggesting I go direct? I would use a situational opener; I don't want to appear creepy going direct (a fault of my behalf possibly).
Direct being creepy is a extremely bad belief you have there. Think of it this way, which is more creepy:

Going up to a women and telling the truth and showing your full masculine intent

OR

Going up to her and making some excuse as to why your talking to her and HIDING the real reason why your talking to her.

To me at least, I see the hiding why your talking to her to be much more creepy then showing confidence by approaching with full masculine intent.

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Is this suggesting I go direct? I would use a situational opener; I don't want to appear creepy going direct (a fault of my behalf possibly).
Direct being creepy is a extremely bad belief you have there. Think of it this way, which is more creepy:

Going up to a women and telling the truth and showing your full masculine intent

OR

Going up to her and making some excuse as to why your talking to her and HIDING the real reason why your talking to her.

To me at least, I see the hiding why your talking to her to be much more creepy then showing confidence by approaching with full masculine intent.
Agreed 100%

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Hey Scammer. It doesn't shock me you like it, because if not you wouldn't copy his shit and make "stealth seduction" out of it you douchebag!

Hail 60!
Death to Gambler the scammer!
Be more civil on this forum. Keep the negativity to yourself.
I think justice and being fair is far from negative!

Gambler stole shit from 60, how can we let that go? t's not being negative, it's calling out scammers.

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Hey Scammer. It doesn't shock me you like it, because if not you wouldn't copy his shit and make "stealth seduction" out of it you douchebag!

Hail 60!
Death to Gambler the scammer!
Be more civil on this forum. Keep the negativity to yourself.
I think justice and being fair is far from negative!

Gambler stole shit from 60, how can we let that go? t's not being negative, it's calling out scammers.
Choose your words carefully so you don't flame

@trixta: I emailed 60 about this thread and maybe he'll come and answer your questions himself :)


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Interesting approach. The main negative side effect that I can think of would be this issue of being TOO awkward, or creepy as it has been referred to. How does this issue get avoided?

Also, what's 60's book called?

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Ok sorry if this doesn't quite fit in the real world gaming, but I wa an e-baller and I was gaming this girl tonight on PlentyofFish and right away I started escalating the conversation in a sexual way, and even though she acted like I was out of line and not appropriate she was captivated and continued to talk to me. At one point she was saying that me being so sexual was annoying her,

I basically said " Look I find you attractive and yes I do want to have sex with you, I am sorry if I am being honest and tell it how it is"

and to my surprise she said that she appreciated that comment more than any I have said to her up to that point lol

I cannot wait to take this shit to the field, and Vegas is going to be my battlefield this weekend. I am going to be listening to 60s shit on the way there, hopefully I can get some good foundation built prior to gamming Friday night.

I also find myself using a mix of all skills contributed by all the PUA.


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