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There are actually quite a few guys in the community who are "frauds." Some of the guys who claim to be able to teach you how to get laid, can hardly get laid themselves.

However, among the hundreds of "Dating Coaches" now available to take your money, a few stand above the rest. The following guys are LEGIT.

NOTE: Just because I dont list someone doesn't mean hes not legit. However, the guys I'm about to list are very talented and some of the best of the commercial puas. You cant go wrong learning from these guys.

1) RSD crew. Specially Tim, Alex, and Ozzie. I have had the pleasure to see all three of these guys infield more than once. Im not going to do any long reviews but I will say that Tim is the best commercial pua I have ever seen. Your reality will be shattered watching this guy
yeah im starting on RSD and blueprint is a bit deep, hard to really apply because of the length of it but im trying. have you seen Tyler infield? i havent watched all of blueprint but i dont see much talking of how to put it infeild yet.

is it possible to explain what rsd gaming is like? or is it so natural its different person to person. I wouldnt mind knowing what rsd is like roughly when the 'sign posts' are applied properly.

Tyler seems cool though

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There are actually quite a few guys in the community who are "frauds." Some of the guys who claim to be able to teach you how to get laid, can hardly get laid themselves.

However, among the hundreds of "Dating Coaches" now available to take your money, a few stand above the rest. The following guys are LEGIT.

NOTE: Just because I dont list someone doesn't mean hes not legit. However, the guys I'm about to list are very talented and some of the best of the commercial puas. You cant go wrong learning from these guys.

1) RSD crew. Specially Tim, Alex, and Ozzie. I have had the pleasure to see all three of these guys infield more than once. Im not going to do any long reviews but I will say that Tim is the best commercial pua I have ever seen. Your reality will be shattered watching this guy
yeah im starting on RSD and blueprint is a bit deep, hard to really apply because of the length of it but im trying. have you seen Tyler infield? i havent watched all of blueprint but i dont see much talking of how to put it infeild yet.

is it possible to explain what rsd gaming is like? or is it so natural its different person to person. I wouldnt mind knowing what rsd is like roughly when the 'sign posts' are applied properly.

Tyler seems cool though
Blueprint is good.

Yes, I have seen Tyler Durden infield more than once. Very talented.

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Yes I too have always had trouble understanding how to actually apply the concepts taught in RSD's Blueprint.

I have it on audiotape and have listened to much of it over and over and over, and yet I still am almost clueless as to what half of it means, let alone how to apply it to my game and improve myself based on it.

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Yes I too have always had trouble understanding how to actually apply the concepts taught in RSD's Blueprint.

I have it on audiotape and have listened to much of it over and over and over, and yet I still am almost clueless as to what half of it means, let alone how to apply it to my game and improve myself based on it.
RSD's blueprint isn't that hard.. just a lot
i watched every week 2 hours of it (one dvd), it will take ages but at least you can remember most of it... and it is pretty useful to get to new insights :)


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Yes I too have always had trouble understanding how to actually apply the concepts taught in RSD's Blueprint.

I have it on audiotape and have listened to much of it over and over and over, and yet I still am almost clueless as to what half of it means, let alone how to apply it to my game and improve myself based on it.
without atleast a year of practice the blueprint is going to be hella vague.

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Just FYI to any newbies who don't already know: Mehow has the worst reputation in the community, and probably for good reason, too.


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Just FYI to any newbies who don't already know: Mehow has the worst reputation in the community, and probably for good reason, too.
Cool, never really listened to that guy. Why does he have a bad reputation?


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Look, every single book out there has some useful information.

However, the conclusion is always the same: Go out in-field and practice your ass off. Eventually, you will find your own method that works.

Which leads me to a very arguable statement that books and other training isn't needed at all to become super awesome with women.


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Look, every single book out there has some useful information.

However, the conclusion is always the same: Go out in-field and practice your ass off. Eventually, you will find your own method that works.

Which leads me to a very arguable statement that books and other training isn't needed at all to become super awesome with women.
They arnt needed but are useful. They can shave years of your learning curve. Life is to short to learn totally by trial and error, learn from other peoples error.

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Look, every single book out there has some useful information.

However, the conclusion is always the same: Go out in-field and practice your ass off. Eventually, you will find your own method that works.

Which leads me to a very arguable statement that books and other training isn't needed at all to become super awesome with women.
They arnt needed but are useful. They can shave years of your learning curve. Life is to short to learn totally by trial and error, learn from other peoples error.
Absolutely. Can certainly speed up the process. Finding new information can also help you when you're finding it a bit boring. I read stuff by guys that I don't even think are that good just to test their methods. Most of them work, but some work much better.

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They arnt needed but are useful. They can shave years of your learning curve. Life is to short to learn totally by trial and error, learn from other peoples error.
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I just ordered the 60s material and I will try that soon. I spent the night tonight reviewing bunch of different PUA videos on you tube and honestly I am not too impressed by what I ve seen. I thought I was bad because I haven't had much luck closing but at the same time my conversations pretty much mirror most of these guys.

The point is, they seem like they don't get anywhere with the girls, I notice huge signs of disinterest on the girls part and they use this as commercials to attract other guys to their teachings. Am I wrong here? Maybe I am missing the point, and in most situations I really cannot determine exactly what their system is all about?

I think when I read the material from most PUA it makes sense but on theoretical level. The problem with that is the pick up game is very fluid and unless you are very, very versed in their material, methods you will only get lost in the shuffle. Can someone please explain what I might be missing?


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I just ordered the 60s material and I will try that soon. I spent the night tonight reviewing bunch of different PUA videos on you tube and honestly I am not too impressed by what I ve seen. I thought I was bad because I haven't had much luck closing but at the same time my conversations pretty much mirror most of these guys.

The point is, they seem like they don't get anywhere with the girls, I notice huge signs of disinterest on the girls part and they use this as commercials to attract other guys to their teachings. Am I wrong here? Maybe I am missing the point, and in most situations I really cannot determine exactly what their system is all about?

I think when I read the material from most PUA it makes sense but on theoretical level. The problem with that is the pick up game is very fluid and unless you are very, very versed in their material, methods you will only get lost in the shuffle. Can someone please explain what I might be missing?
Post a link to the vids you have seen.

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Here you go brother:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOAw-WjC ... re=related

This one he goes around talking to women, which is good example to guys that don't talk to women at all. Also, he is somewhat drunk which makes approaching girls that much easier. Non of them in my opinio run of with him with any eagerness. He seems like he is forcing their attention. I don't know he seems like a cool guy and he may get a lot of tail but I as a student did not get much ou of the ones I ve seen.

and another one is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2Mn3eUm ... re=related

I mean he goes over the questions about logistics, and I know it seems like its only one segment from the whole video but still it doesn't give any amplifying tips, or ways to deal with specifics. He doesnt tie it all together?

What do you think?


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