Hi Everyone,

I Started working on this HB8 about a year ago. We were very flirtatious and there seemed to be interest on both ends. I was a bit of a pussy to pursue her back then.... I was told that she was into another guy who is a buddy of mine and I guess i was afraid of competition. A few months later I met ANOTHER girl and dated her up until 2 weeks ago. Since we broke up I have been getting very close to the original HB8. Last week a bunch of us went to a bar in the city and I spent the night grinding with her for about an hour. It was obvious that we were digging each other. I didn't make a move for the kiss cause I didn't wanna to move too fast. On the way home I saw she was texting that other guy i was suspecting she was into last year. The following night one of my boys and his girl asked The hb8 and myself to come out with them. So we went to another bar. Again we were grinding and having a good time but i didnt go in for the kiss again. On the way home i saw her again texting. People keep telling me that she is into that other guy so I seem to be discouraged.

Now when I talk to her she seems a little cold and is giving me uninterested answers. So last night she invited me to her house with a few other people. I replied "Thanks ill try to come".... and i never showed up. So I am try to act like a flake as well.

a few questions:
What should be my next move with this girl?
How to I blow this other guy out of the way?
How can I get her to show a bit more affection? (she never shows emotion)

Let me know if I have been unclear about anything.
Thanks

Wait,what the F are you doing!!?

You had 2 opportunities at the Kiss-close,but you pussied out!!

What the hell do you expect?

She has all rights to be into "the other guy".

You're making it real easy for the other guy.

But really,F the other guy;why are you tressing about him?

Personally,you didnt even study this girl until she now seems to be into "the other guy".

Where to go from here?

Forget about that!!!

You frigged up by not moving aggressive on this girl!

You wanted to take it slow,so you blew it!

Next time,or even with this girl,move swiftly!!!

I'll be surprise if this chicc would want to hang out with you.

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K-loc might be a little too harsh but it's all true. I will point out couple things that went wrong here:
- It took you a year to make a move on here.
- Then she gave you 2 chances in a row and you didn't take charge.
- "I don't wanna move fast" - AFC reason for chicken out, she already gave plenty of IOIs
- She dissed out her last effort to give you your last chance by "inviting you over". You decided to be all proud mighty and ditched her.

You can move slow if you want, but when the girl shows her interest in hooking up with you, please do take charge, otherwise you're just another typical nice guy who is afraid of women just like other millions out there.
If she has a bf - ignore it
If shes into other guy - ignore it
Women are emotional creatures, if you can control how she feels, logic doesn't matter anymore. Why do you think so many girl cheat on their bf?

Great advise Taohackne;less harsh than mines but...

Really,girls just give a guy 1 chance or so,if they dont take advantage.

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Spot on. Next time you see her you better k-close otherwise you'll NEVER get another chance. Remember to kino escalate smoothly first!

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Update:

5 Nights ago she called me to come over. My buddy and his girl were there. I went to her place and the 4 of us were in her room. I was cuddling with my girl for an hour, she was shoving her ass on my cock and kept squeezing my hand. After an hour she says lets leave the other 2 alone and go into the other room. We leave and lie down next to each other on the couch. I was ready to make a move but her brother came home and we had to get up.

a few nights later she had a small party. I stayed as late as possible but left. I texted her 10 min later :

me: after hours?
her: a few people are still here, you can come back and chill with us if you want
me: i only want to chill with you
her: hahah

thats it i didnt answer a left it alone. Now I feel like she is being cold again.

I really fell like a pussy. I didn't make a move fast enough again. Any way to salvage the situation?

You did it wrong again Why did you leave then text her 10 min after asking if she wanna do after hours? This tells her couple things:
- You're needy, and just wanna get inside her pant
- You're impatient, you could have waited till everyone left
- You left then asked her if you can come back ? - Indecisive and clingy
- "I only wanna chill with you" - AFC statement here, it's almost just like saying I only wanna fuck you

Look bro, I felt exactly the same as you're feeling now with a girl I'm dating at the moment; ashamed, disappointed, and like a total pussy for not making a move when I could have. The only way you will feel better is if you actually make a move (I.E. go for the god damned kiss), and from what I read the girl absolutely would NOT have rejected a kiss from you in the situations you posted. This girl WANTS IT. If you get some kind of miracle and get put in a similar position with this girl, for the love of God go for a kiss.

Yea I knew it was a mistake saying "I only want to chill with you" right after i sent it.

I need to get get one more shot at it. How should I approach it from here on out?

I WILL MAKE THE MOVE NEXT OPPORTUNITY... JUST HELP ME GET THERE