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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:20 am 
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Alright, day 1 of hitting the club scene.

All night, I was making eye contact, smiling, walking up to girls. Every girl turned me down, even girls I considered "below" me..

Most of the time it went something like this:

Me: Hey, how are you tonight?
Her: Not bad
Me: Why aren't you dancing? Come for a dance?
Her: Ahh maybe later.......

//end of convo

Also what I noticed is that when talking to girls most of the time they're more interested in getting a free drink off you rather than actually getting to know you. Am I meant to just shell out $5 per drink for any girl that asks? It's so messed up as I was doing really well with talking to girls during the days leading up to this night, and now my confidence has taken a huge blow because of this.

I probably approached about 5-6 girls through out the night. I don't understand club game, it's weird as hell. How can I approach girls on the dance floor? The ratio was about 2:1 (guy:girl) so there were a lot of guys..

Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or have any advice for the next time I decide to hit up a club?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:38 am 
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Dont ask them, you gotta give them no choice.

So if instead say, ''Why arent you dancing?'' Take here hand and say ''Lets go dance'' and lead her to the dance floor or whatnot.

But youre starting wrong, with direct game. Unless you look like a greek god, or its common knowledge that you have soemthing special between your pants, its gonna be hard to open girls with direct game.


And is your body language right? thats even more important than talking. Are you approaching them right?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:23 am 
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I would recommend watching Gambler's Stealth Seduction program. He talks about how to raise your value within clubs so that when you approach a girl, you are rejection proof because you have that value.

Please take a look at it, this is specifically for club game. It shows how to open and then how to get her in your bed that same night.

Great stuff :)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:46 am 
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Where can I find the video? I've googled it, but haven't found any results :S

I haven't really been thinking about my body language too much, but I make sure to stand tall with good posture, arms at side, making some gestures and that. I'm quite new to the game (if you hadn't already noticed) so any advice is greatly appreciated.

What would be a better opener at a club? Most girls just seemed to be trying to suss out free drinks left right and center..


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First, think about whether the conversation is ending because you are ejecting or because she is walking away.

Also always escalate and push, lately i would eject when ever a girl resisted or gave me a negative response... My mate how ever just plows through this and keeps pushing. Made me realise that girls will be bitchy to you in the start just to proove they are not "that" girl or that you "can't" have them.

Stick in there dude.


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First, think about whether the conversation is ending because you are ejecting or because she is walking away.

Also always escalate and push, lately i would eject when ever a girl resisted or gave me a negative response... My mate how ever just plows through this and keeps pushing. Made me realise that girls will be bitchy to you in the start just to proove they are not "that" girl or that you "can't" have them.

Stick in there dude.
Agreed...you have nothing to lose by plowing.

I tried this recently....go up to a gril and do a droky dance move and kinda giggle like you;re sharing a joke. Works best with hot, but not too bitchy girls. Then say "i am bored by this place and by its pretentiousness...lets just try to out dance eachother with daggy moves". Worked a treat and got 3 numbers in one night.
It does help that i can dance a bit and even my stupid funny moves looks kinda cool. I'm not being big headed, just honest!


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First, think about whether the conversation is ending because you are ejecting or because she is walking away.

Also always escalate and push, lately i would eject when ever a girl resisted or gave me a negative response... My mate how ever just plows through this and keeps pushing. Made me realise that girls will be bitchy to you in the start just to proove they are not "that" girl or that you "can't" have them.

Stick in there dude.
Yeah dude, I think I was ejecting waaaaay to prematurely, also I would make her feel ok with it, which I now know is wrong (from reading on this forum).

So I'm thinking I'll tell her to come dance, take her hand and lead her to the dance floor, while working boob keno along the way. My main problem is approaching though, I know there's meant to be something called the "three second rule"? So as soon as I see a girl I like I have three seconds to make my move. What's a good move to make on a girl at a club? I've already established that my form of direct game was getting me absolutely nowhere.

Thanks for all the replies guys, appreciate it muchly ;)


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Hey mate, club game is my specialty, about 90% of the girls I've slept with I picked up in clubs. Gamblers system for raising your value in clubs is great. It's filled with stuff that people like myself do unconsciously.

First things first. Don't ask a girl to dance so quickly. I see guys do this 50 times a night, 4 nights a week, and I see it work maybe 5 or 6 times for attractive high value guys.

Also, unless you are really relaxed on the dance floor, don't even hit it at all. Just relax and talk to her. Ask her boring shit about herself, and pretend to be a bit interested until you find something you have in common and then get really excited about it. This makes the girl relax heaps, and she feels that you're becoming more attracted to her because you share things, rather than just her looks.

The advantage of clubs is you can escalate kino very quickly. So DO!

Also, despite what some methods might tell you, don't hide your attraction, but don't drool over her either.

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Is there a special type of club that you guys go to where you can talk to women, because every club I've ever been in is so loud that you can barely hear a word! How can you possibly hold a conversation when you have to scream into each other's ears and often repeat 2-3 times just to be heard?


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yeh mate, lots of clubs have a second room with quieter music. especially the more upper class ones. jump online and search in your area for any clubs that have a chillout room

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Hey mate, club game is my specialty, about 90% of the girls I've slept with I picked up in clubs. Gamblers system for raising your value in clubs is great. It's filled with stuff that people like myself do unconsciously.

First things first. Don't ask a girl to dance so quickly. I see guys do this 50 times a night, 4 nights a week, and I see it work maybe 5 or 6 times for attractive high value guys.

Also, unless you are really relaxed on the dance floor, don't even hit it at all. Just relax and talk to her. Ask her boring shit about herself, and pretend to be a bit interested until you find something you have in common and then get really excited about it. This makes the girl relax heaps, and she feels that you're becoming more attracted to her because you share things, rather than just her looks.

The advantage of clubs is you can escalate kino very quickly. So DO!

Also, despite what some methods might tell you, don't hide your attraction, but don't drool over her either.
Thanks for the advice dude, I'm very grateful. Where can I find more information about Gamblers method? I can't find it anywhere online and I'm a poor student so don't have funds to buy any PUA material.

Cheers


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um I think he has a free newsletter which covers a lot of his stuff. He's also uploaded disc 2 of one of his CDs.

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um I think he has a free newsletter which covers a lot of his stuff. He's also uploaded disc 2 of one of his CDs.
Oh yeah I've seen the 2nd disc, but it doesn't have anything on making yourself high value in a club. I think that's where I need the most help.


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I'm writing a guide on it now. I will post a download link here in a day or two when I'm done. It's very in depth and covers just about everything I've learned from my own experience and addresses just about everything I've ever read, the true and the bullshit.

BTW. I run nights at nightclubs, manage a nightclub, dj at clubs, play in a band which is starting to become successful and worked in nightclubs as both a bouncer and bartender for 4 years so I've seen it all from just about every angle possible.

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I'm writing a guide on it now. I will post a download link here in a day or two when I'm done. It's very in depth and covers just about everything I've learned from my own experience and addresses just about everything I've ever read, the true and the bullshit.

BTW. I run nights at nightclubs, manage a nightclub, dj at clubs, play in a band which is starting to become successful and worked in nightclubs as both a bouncer and bartender for 4 years so I've seen it all from just about every angle possible.
Awesome bro, you seem like a good guy to learn from! Keep me posted, I'm going to be going to the clubs again this weekend, so hoping to be a little more prepared this time ;)


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