Hey guys. There is something I wish to discuss, that I believe you'd find interesting.
Haven't you noticed these patterns that repeat over and over? Doesn't it get kinda annoying and boring?

This is what I mean:

#1 Every seduction guru out there has pretty much the same story:

* "believe it or not" used to be terrible with women and now he's really good and offers you the secret.

* Has worked tirelessly to figure out his method/model for years. In other words, has completed the quest for the holy grail. Working underground, etc...

* Always, or at least most of the times, has some sort of reasonable proof to justify his own method. This mean pictures, videos, great reviews etc. etc. etc.

* And the marketing tactics to sell it. You all guys know that too well. The "ridiculously" low price, the money back guarantee, limited stock, it will sell out fast etc etc etc...

* Claims that his method will change pick up forever and that his method is the future.

#2 Every guru disannounces all the other gurus, says that they ain't got thunder (not always, but happens a lot) and says that he has seen the light and that his method really is the best. Every guru gives very good reasons for you to believe him, that it gets really confusing if you start browsing other gurus.


#3 And here we have the "battles" between schools of pick up. This never seems to get old. We have the classical battle between Mystery Method and Natural Game, Direct vs Indirect, the dudes that think they are too cool for any method and pick up anyway, how scripted and canned material is for faggots etc. On one hand we have the ballsy guys who tell you cliched and not very helpful advice like "grow some balls and charge head on!" , and the other guys who use a philosopher's approach to pick up, that preach their ideologies.

This is just to name a few. Right now, I can't remember anything else, but I might post something else later.

Here is my take on things regarding gurus - EVERY guru started out as a mystery method guy, then added his own twist to the M3 model, got laid a dozen of times and driven byy excitement decided that not only he can get laid, but make money out of it!

Every school of pick up seem to be like a religion. It will always have its loyal followers no matter what, and they have perfect reasons to do so.

So my question is this - were lies the truth regarding pick up? Of course, if there even is such...

Peace.

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You know what I think? I think if it gets you girls who the fuck cares.

MM May not be for some people, and yes it has its downsides. Some guys like speedseduction, others stealth attraction or "natural game" (which I dont really get, if its natural why can you learn it here?) . There are probably lots of diffrent methods. But what is the common goal here? Girls gentlemen, girls.

I think people should stop whining about which method is better that which. If it gets you girls, what else matters?

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The obvious solution, of course, is to stop looking for the answers to your problems from external sources and realize you have them inside you.

Your boy,
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Yeah seriously. Whichever method works for you is the best one. In a similar way, since their own method works for them, they spend tons of words trying to justify how it's better than the others'.

Also I do agree with one thing that they say "I was really bad with girls to start with". Most likely they were because those who're naturally good usually don't understand the value of the asset that they possess.

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Women are plenty, time is not.

I agree with you. All I care about is getting casual sex, as much as possible. Sew me. People need a model that works, most of them don't care about the why. Most people don't understand how their car works, but all they need to know is that they'll get where they wanna be.

It's really irritating when the battles of "why" start to occur.

Another Mystery Method versus Natural Game debate anyone? Let's not limit ourselves to that, you name it!

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Of course the patterns are getting old - they're as old as the hills.

People have been selling people stuff they don't need since the beginning of time.